May 10, 2022

Your Life is Your Pulpit

Your Life is Your Pulpit
Your Life is Your Pulpit
Ignite with Barry Meguiar Podcast
Your Life is Your Pulpit

Brandon Pogue is not a pastor, but his business is his pulpit. Hear how this CEO of a thriving wellness products company is taking advantage of every opportunity to respond to God’s nudge — even in work meetings — to tell people about Jesus.

Host Barry Meguiar is a car guy and businessman who hosted the popular TV show, Car Crazy, on Discovery Networks for 18 years. He loves cars, but he loves Jesus even more!

Hear from guest Brandon Pogue:

Brandon Pogue is the Chief Executive Officer of TruLabs which offers high-quality wellness products and dietary supplements — including Hydrate, Sleep, and Energy + Focus which are available for purchase at Sam’s Club. Since 2018, Brandon and his team have helped over 25,000 people through healthy products and are rewarded to see that their products are positively changing people’s lives daily. Brandon loves to tell others about Jesus and says: “If you don’t share your faith, you’re missing the reason why you’re waking up every morning.”

Learn more about:

  • Brandon’s #1 goal while he’s here on earth
  • When Brandon prayed for a Dallas SWAT officer’s wife at Sam’s Club
  • How you can use your business as your pulpit
  • The percentage of Americans who go to bed every night fearing this
  • How Brandon and Barry have discipled a Jewish man who accepted Christ

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Welcome back to Ignite. You know, this family of God concept where we're all part of the family of God, um, I don't know what you, but some family members are closer than others. I just, I go to a lot of different Christian groups, organizations all across the country and I find some I gravitate to and some I don't and sometimes when I'm out with them socially at meals and stuff, um, there's a lot of different types of Christians, I guess is what I'm saying. You know, you have on fire Christians, you have lukewarm Christians, you have carnal Christians and a lot of terms. So this family concept, in the natural we have family members, but there's some family members, I guess all of us are a little closer to that others. Um, we have a guest today who is a very close family member, but I hardly know him. Um, and so I want to address that point. Um, I've interviewed a lot of you about sharing their faith and I found that there's this one consistent thing throughout all of them is that they all have, they all hold God as their first love, more important than anything else. And when he's your first love with nothing separate, you just want to just serve him more than anything else. You just want to serve him. Um, you automatically share your faith. You just do. I, I interviewed a lady. It's on it. It's on the knight of american.com, a block lady who's had a decided a different life than than me and had a lot of health problems. And she's so full of the Lord. We just let her talk to the camera. I didn't even interview her. And as, and as she spoke, I wept because this lady was, she was saying my innermost thoughts. What, what she said was exactly what I believed in my core. How is that that we could grow up in different areas, locations, families, be so different. And I just fell in love with this lady and and she was speaking. I could have her speak for me. There was no separation between me and her. It just wasn't. And I thought about that sense quite a lot. You know, there, there's one God. We serve one God. One Holy Spirit. It's, it's one Bible. And when we come into oneness with God, when he's our first love, we're in sync with everybody else who has first love. And we're, if you want to, if you want to be a part of the family of God, not just the title that, oh, I'm a Christian. I'm a Christian. You go out to eat it. They don't even talk about God. They tell you what everything but God. And then you go with another group of Christians. The entire conversation, I was like, wow, that was great. And we all got close to God because that kind of, those are fun. And those are family members, okay? I have a new family member and I'm really close to this guy. And I, in the natural, I hardly know him. He lives in Texas. He's, he's in Dallas. He's Brad and Pogue. And I, I met his mom at a prairie treat at my house. A lady's prairie treat. And these were just ladies coming to pray. They were praying. Ladies coming to pray. And everybody's there. Their lives were changing, including mine. I got to stay. Let me sit in on something, you know. And this lady got a, it just so blew me away what she said. And I liked whatever I see somebody that's just really full. I'd like to go over and get a little bit what they have. Because some of that come off on me, you know? So that was Brandon's mom. And about a month or so later, she called me. And she said, Barry, where are you? I said, Wisconsin. Oh, I'm so glad you're in Scottsdale right now. You got to talk to me son Brandon. He just led a Jew to the Lord. And, and he's in Texas, but he's finding Scottsdale today. So I want to get in that conversation. But so okay, we are so many. We've had so much fun talking the phone. And I wish you could have recorded some of our earlier conversations, Brandon. But welcome. Welcome to Ignite. And now we get to do for other people see what we've been doing on the phone the last several weeks. So much, much fun. Welcome, my friend. Welcome. Hey, thanks so much, Barry. Barry, it's so great to be here. As you say, we barely know each other, but we know each other. Right. You have been such an inspiration the last few months that we've been talking. And the things that we've been able to do, the only way that can happen is if it's supernatural. And we can talk about Jordan and what's happened and transpired there. But I think one of the things that you and I talked about even at lunch when you came in here to Dallas a month ago was how can people not have this fire about sharing Jesus on an everyday basis? Like how can you, Christian? And how do people think it's hard? And Barry, I mean, you and I talked a little bit about that. Why do people think it's hard to talk about Christ? And what I've been finding out since, since we've kind of had this winning streak since Easter this year, I've got to lead four men to Christ. Just boom, boom, boom, boom. What's going to happen? You've got to stop that. All right. You're a businessman, okay? Yes. You're not a pastor. You're not evangelist. No. You have this business chewlabs, which is, we're not here to talk about that. But let me tell you chewlabs. Give me a 60 second pitch on chewlabs just right quick. Well, I mean, so we say, we say first of all, I don't own it. My partner's owner, we say it's the Lord's first, right? So a lot of business leaders think their businesses are theirs, they're wrong. Their businesses are not their business, their God's business. If you're Christian, your Christian businessman, what you do on a daily basis is not yours. It's God's. So get that straight first. And then chewlabs, what chewlabs is, we call it, if we call it the ministry of health and fitness. So if you're an Olympic caliber athlete, or if you're somebody who's just trying to do one thing better to live a little bit healthier life, that's, that's who chewlabs is for. So it's great stuff. You can find it. Sam's come up right now. You're sleep product, by the way. You take this little package and put it in water. I have two people have horrible sleep patterns, one for 30 years. And she's now sleeping five to six hours a night. She can't even. So I haven't even heard this yet. You haven't even called me to let me know how she was sleeping. So anyway, so you're a businessman. You start a fairly new business. The pressures, the finances, the, the composition, the manufacturer. You have enormous things on your plate, but your number one goal, the thing that, that lights your fire every day is. Well, I mean, we, we say we're, we're taking more with us than we're leaving behind. That's right. That's what, that's what we're doing. And so if we can take more people to heaven than we're leaving behind, then we want it doesn't matter how successful we were in business. It doesn't matter how successful we were anywhere else. Even, even with our family, I mean, I love my family. I've got three kids that are serving the Lord, two, two of my kids are at a retreat today. Certain cries, praising, praising Lord. Your family is all, is all amazing. But, but when you get to heaven, it's not going to matter how many of your products are right, my products. But we want to even think about that. Not in you. In comparison to helping somebody get into heaven. I, I think in a thousand years from now, you and I will be celebrating about Jordan and heaven. We won't be thinking about products or business or anything else, but Jordan will be thinking about a billion years from now. I mean, thinking that for a second, the, the importance of doing that, why are we, the question why are we not doing it when it's so much fun and it's eternal? Yeah, it's eternal. I mean, that's the reason why when we're in Sam's clubs and we're there letting people sample our products there and we're talking to them about our business true labs. That's why sometimes a Holy Spirit will just jump on us and we'll say, can I pray with you? And, and I had this one incident. There was this lady named Angela. Her husband was a SWAT officer for the police force in Dallas. And we were there and I was like, can I just pray for you because she was talking about some other issues. When you start to talk about health and wellness, it really gets to the innermost being of somebody. And what was interesting is as I got through praying a lady that we had just brought on board, who's been on a lot of mission trips with us, just loves the Lord. She goes, do you speak Spanish? And she says, yes, well, she starts speaking Spanish. I don't know what's going on. All of a sudden, I'm watching this lady's eyes. She starts to well up in tears. And I'm like, what is going on? Here we are, like all 14 Sam's, or whatever. Sam's club. And this lady's welling up with tears and she's getting ministered by the Holy Spirit because we're just tools that are available. Yeah. Isn't that something that really amazing? So that's what I call the Ministry of Health and Fitness. It's not just about having great products. We're all on full-time ministry. Back in the early century, I get away with my age, but 1973, I actually thought God was calling me into full-time ministry. You know the story. And I prayed the most for repair of my life. As I think back now, the most for repair I ever prayed was that day. I closed the door of my office of God. I just want to serve you. I want to do what you want me to do. If you want me to live the family business, I will do it. But I almost need to hear from you with an audible voice. And 20 minutes later, since this guy to my office, I'd never spoken to. Didn't know. He asked me some questions about how's it going. I started talking about Sharon Faith. And he said, you have a wonderful ministry here. And I said, why would you say that? He says, the people you're reaching, a pastor couldn't reach. But as a businessman, you can. He gave me this line. Your business is your pulpit. Yeah. Wow. I had seen it where they overlapped. But I realized we're, it's 24-7. I mean, we're in ministry all the time. Everything we do and say is affecting people around us. And our business and our pleasure and our recreation, what happy. But I saw my business, my pulpit, that for them to now, it's been my, I love my business. Don't give me wrong. You love your products. I love what I do. I mean, I really love what I do. But I recognize God's giving favor to my business. He's opened up doors. I give him all praise for that. But I also recognize there's such a higher calling as we talk about when he gets to heaven. It's not going to matter about the price. It doesn't matter how long the way. How many people do we influence? You know, the same story from my dad. My dad actually was about to, before he ever started into business, he said that he felt like he was called to mission work. And he was ready to lay it down and go become a mission missionary in Mexico. And what was really interesting was that later down the road, my dad would retire. And now he goes and builds about 12 churches a year in Mexico. So it's not that that desire is incorrect. The desire for you to be in ministry, the desire for my dad to be in mission work, it's not that that's an incorrect desire. It's not an incorrect desire. It's just the way that God fulfills it may be different than what you and I perceive. Well, we think of this stereotype. You're in ministry, you know, or you're secular. You're layman. And some send and some go, I believe that for a while. Okay, this is cool. The more money I make, the more money I give, I send them. I get the same brownie points. And I get so dry. Well, paying for somebody else to ministry, that is, that's a, that's a 40% disaster. We're all in ministry. It's just, it's not the tradition we've been taught, but it's whatever we do is ministry 100% of the time. It's ministry. We're everything we do. Everything we say is moving everybody watching us closer or further away from God. When we see that, it changes the way we live. And the opportunities pop up so fast, you could hardly keep up with them. Well, you and I were talked about, talked about this. You know, I had, you know, these wins, just, I mean, you know, Christ, Christ, Christ and all these different men. And I came in, and like on the Thursday and on the Friday, and it was just kind of in this funk. And I was like, what's going on? And, you know, it was just kind of one of those things and I couldn't shake it. I couldn't figure out because everything was right in my life. But what was interesting, that Saturday morning, I talked to a friend who had been through some hard family issues. He'd had a divorce, but he was talking about Jesus and he was talking about what the Lord's doing. And the Lord just gave me a word for this guy, this doctor. He's a very successful doctor. He's out of Keller, Texas. And this doctor, I just felt like the Lord was saying, hey, in God's eyes, you are still a little kid and God just wants you to give you a big hug and just love on you. Even though all these mistakes they did kind of been through. And when I started to talk to him and let the Holy Spirit use me and then pray with him, that joy came straight back. And I was like, okay, that's what was missing because everything else seemed to be in line. But it's talking about Christ. It's sharing the love of Christ. It's talking. It's letting the Holy Spirit use you, right? And man, that's what you and I have in common. That's why we become so close. It's because there's nothing else. I mean, I love your cars. I love your houses. I love the airplanes. I love all that stuff. That's great. But everything else pales in comparison to sharing about Christ. Absolutely. Period. End of story. That's the end of the book. That's all that counts. Most latest statistics, 73% of all Americans, 73% of all Americans in America are going to bed every night in mortal fear of impending doom. 73% of Americans. But the statistic is higher for Christians. The statistic is higher for Christians. It's more than 73% and I'm looking at the research of why that is. But Christians know there's a hell. They probably have more information. But when we're when we're serving him, when we're sharing him, the joy comes in. Yeah, there's no room for fear. Yeah, it doesn't it doesn't matter, right? Joy, you know, perfect love casts out all fear. And we love God and we love our neighbors and we're in the game. There's no worry. There's no fear. He's directing our steps. He's blessing as he's making everything. The problem, all his promises come true are fulfilled and manifested. When we simply do the one thing he mandated us to do, and that's share of faith, go to the world and preach the gospel. Yeah, very much. I think this is what you and I were talking about Luke 645 the other day. A good man out of the treasure of his heart, bring it forth, what is good. And an evil man brings out the evil treasure of his high of his heart, right? And so out of the abundance, the heart of the mouth speaks. And for out of the abundance of his heart, his mouth speaks. So that's what we were talking about. If it's in your heart, if you're practicing if you're practicing praise and Lord, if you're in your Bible every day, if you're talking about the Lord, that's what's going to birth out of you. So you may be fearful, but if you're chasing the Lord and you've got the hope, you've got the joy, then that's what you're going to be talking about. We have a lot of Christians that are being religious in their Bible reading and in their prayer life and doing all the right things. And we need to do all those things. But if we're doing it just to be religious out of being out of obligation, there's no joy in that. In fact, I can drive out. I've been there. I did that. So I could experience on that. But when you're focused not on praying and in the word, you're focused on loving God and allowing him to speak through your people, your Bible life, your Bible study comes alive with purpose, your digging prescription, you're looking for answers to questions you being asked and you're praying for all the people God's bringing your life and going to bring in your life and everything starts having purpose and it all goes. And that's why the lead link on the chain is sharing your faith, not being religious. We can do all kinds of good things, have no joy and not be helping anybody. So that's a great segue into what happened a few weeks ago. So we were at a business meeting. We were celebrating a huge win that we have had. And we were in this in this restaurant in Frisco called Haywire. And on the third floor, they serve food up there. But they also, you know, there's a bar up there. People smoke cigars and all that stuff. And we had been there early. And I was about to leave because I'm kind of an early to bed, early to rise kind of of right. I get up at five, five, 30 every morning, just love getting up in the morning. So it was about nine o'clock at night. And I was I was ready to go. So I'm trying to leave. And there's this guy that comes up. And I just felt the Lord say, Hey, why don't you talk to me about him a little bit? And I'm like, really? And he's like, yeah, right. And I'm like, I mean, it's tired. I'm nine o'clock. And he'd be in bed by nine 30. And so how long have you had that nudge? I get it all the time now. Like the more you practice it, the more it happens. I mean, the more it happens, it's it's an everyday, almost an everyday occurrence now. I mean, it happened to a lady in a diner the other day. I just, I'll tell you that story too. But here's what's interesting. This guy was talking. And then this, this, this, this kind of guy, a little bit arrogant almost comes up and says, Hey, what are you guys talking about? And I was like, well, we're talking about God. And I was like, do you know Jesus? And you know, so we should start talking more about God. And he goes, Oh, that's funny. You guys are talking about God. He goes, I'm Jewish. I'm like, well, so was Jesus. You know, and it was Jordan. So what ends up happening is I'm talking to this other guy, his friend who works for him. And then Jordan was kind of like, you know, really interesting to talk to wanted to kind of lead the conversation. So I pulled this guy away. And I'm like, I really wanted to have that one on one conversation. So I end up praying for this guy. And then I end up just leaving after I pray with this guy. Well, I get a message on Instagram five days later and said, Hey, I've really been thinking about our conversation the night about God and Jesus. I was just wondering if we can maybe connect and maybe even, you know, talk about a little bit more. So here's Jordan, who's a Jewish guy, raised Jewish, uh, lives in Canada. And, um, he has this overwhelming urge, I guess, to message me on Instagram because we connected through Instagram. And we do this phone call and 25 minutes later, the guy prays to have Jesus in his heart. And I'm like, I'm like, is this real life? Usually, this kind of stuff happens in person. Here he is in Canada. I'm in Texas. I'd met the guy for about 10 minutes one night. And I guess whatever the Lord was saying was so impactful that he messaged me on Instagram and he accepts Jesus on the phone. And now he's gone to Scottsdale. And I'm like, I've got to put him in touch with somebody. I don't want to just leave this guy hanging, right? And, um, so, so I'm like, who do we know in Scottsdale? So I frantically, like, Mom, do you know anybody in Scottsdale? They just bought a house out there. Uh, we admit that it was in passing. And she's like, well, why don't you have him call Barry? I'm like, okay, sure. So I'll call Barry. So she gives me your number. And then I call you and I just like, Hey, Barry, I don't really know you. Um, but I've got this guy who's just accepted Christ. He happens to be in the same city you're in. He accepted Christ on the phone. I just want to, I just want somebody to follow up with the guy. And Barry's like, man, this is exciting. I'm on it. I'm leaving town this afternoon, but I'll make time. And so you make time and you spend like an hour or hour and a half with the guy. Now two hours. And then you call me, yeah, you, you call, you call me on the way to the airport to give me a report. And I was like, I don't know who this bear McGuire guy is, but I freaking love him. This guy is genuine. And let's go, like, let's go get more people for heaven. So why don't you tell about what happened in that conversation? Your version of that story. Well, there's a, in Old Town Scottsdale, there's a, there's an old type of restaurant called the sugar bowl. And I met at the sugar bowl. We spent two hours there. And we milked a little scoop of white screw for two hours to keep the table. And it was nonstop. And he was so excited. It wasn't passing. You know, the thing that is I was excited to meet him. He was excited to meet me. Yeah. I mean, that was a priority. Like, yeah, one thing we meet. I said, I'll be there. And it was a nonstop conversation. And, and you know, when you tell a mature Christian, you explained about sharing faith, how much fun it is, how easy it is. The truth is most of them still don't do it. Yeah. They agree with you. But what it comes down to, they've, they've left their first love. I got to tell you, they got other things in their life that have taken priority in their life. If you have first love, you're going to share it. What they're missing now. First love. So he said, I started talking about this, how you do it and share your faith when you tell a new, that's all they know. Oh, I'm supposed to share my faith. Okay. Well, there are already, that's the first thing every Christian new Christian does is want to share the faith that he's telling me. I got so many friends that are asking questions that need to know Jesus. This is going to be fun. So we had this great conversation to hand it back off to you because you got the rest of the story for there. Well, I mean, what I was going to say, I was trying to interrupt you. I'm sorry about that. I get so excited about this. But those people who, who don't share about Christ, they're missing out on so much joy. They may be searching for temporary happiness, but the joy of what they could be getting, if they would share. Yeah, it's, it's, it's life changing. It's not just life changing for you, but you're also life changing for others. And that's why I think you and I connected. But here's what's so interesting. So, so Jordan calls me after you and he's excited. So then he calls his buddy Michael Bucci who's up in Canada and says, Hey, my buddy Michael wants to talk to you on the phone. I'm like, okay, we'll let's talk on the phone. Well, I talked to Michael Bucci the next day and guess what? We pray he accepts the Lord. So now I've got these two guys in Canada, one of them who I've never met face to face. I don't think who we start doing a Zoom call now. Every week we do a Zoom call and I've bought them a book. It's 10 steps towards Christ and they're going through that book. So you're discipling them. And so yeah, so I didn't just, they didn't just get saved and then just say, you know, talk to you later. Yeah. We've got a constant communication. In fact, Jordan FaceTime, me this morning, he's we were at a town last week. I'm back in town this week. He's like, Hey, are you back? I want to get together. I want to come to church with you Sunday. So it's wow. It's I mean, that's what's happening. He's moved from Canada. He's moving to Frisco. And so now we actually get to live life together. This guy who I thought was a little bit annoying first almost because he was so brandish about being Jewish and I was talking to this other guy. But then at the same time, he just had this hunger because he really wanted to know. Well, you know, and so now I've got these these two guys. I have another guy who had been working out here at Chewlabs. We've got a gym here who accepted Jesus because it was Easter weekend. And I said, Hey, where are you going to church this Sunday? He goes, well, my family really doesn't go to church anymore. And I'm like, well, do you want to go with us? I mean, that's the easiest thing, right? Do you want to go with us? Yeah. So he comes with this. He goes with a Sunday. He texted me Sunday night and he said, Hey, look, I'm ready to accept Christ in my heart. Wow. So he comes here Monday, accepts Christ in his heart. I mean, I'm just ballin. I'm just crying because it's there's so much joy in that. No, it's no way to it. He accepted Christ in your office. Yeah. Yeah. Right. In fact, it was literally like in these chairs right here. So what's really cool? He comes to works out, you know, Monday, Tuesday. And then next week he brings another guy in Joaquin. And Joaquin was just like, Hey, I want to know more about the Lord. You know, Will's been telling me what you've been talking about. So we're sitting in these chairs at six o'clock at morning. And what's interesting is like I was here reading my Bible. And I'm really, I really take that time and I love that time in the Bible. I don't. I'm very selfish with it, right? But the Lord was telling me in the back of my head, Hey, put your Bible down. You need to talk to these guys. So that's what happened with Will. He was here on a Saturday. And I was just wanting to pray before we work out and just have my time. But God was like, put your Bible down and talk to this guy about what you've been trained about. And so he gets saved. He brings this guy, Joaquin. So Joaquin, it's six in the morning. And, you know, who's even doing anything at six in the morning? But we started talking about the Lord conversing. And I looked at him and said, You ready to accept Christ? And he goes, Yes, I am. I was like, let's go. Let's let's have you accept Christ. And then we'll get on seriously and work out. And that's literally what happened. He accepted Christ. So so now he's coming around here. So now I've got these four new guys. Yeah. New Gods. They're they're a little bit younger than me, you know, about 10 years, 15 years younger than me. And I'm just being able to share with them how great it is to live a life of Christ. And I was talking about Jordan this morning about Psalms 112. What the benefits of the righteous are. And it was just blowing his mind about when you look at Psalms 112, the promises that God gives for those that keep his commandments and that trust and fear the fear of the Lord. If you haven't read Psalms 112, go read it. It will encourage you today. It really will. You know, that how do we show God that we love him? It's repeated several times in scripture that we we show him. We love him. If you love me, he actually says himself, Jesus, if you love me, keep my commandments. Well, they asked him, what's the most important commandment? Of course, and we know this. He says, love me. We owe all your heart, mind, so on saying everything. I mean, really love me. Nothing separating us. And then the second goes with it. When you love him, you will love your neighbor as yourself. Yeah. And and that's not just doing nice things for them. If you love your neighbor as yourself, you're as concerned for their salvation as you are your own. And so you're loving them into heaven. And when we do that, everything's working. And that's our faith. It all works. It's the top. It's so clear that this is what we're called to do. And yet, when's the last time any of us have heard a sermon that was focused on Ephesians 4, 8 says, the role of the pastor to equip the states for ministry and send us. And we're not being sent. And that's why the world's in a mess. So it takes people, I mean, you're in your office, you're by the way, you said outside your office, I mean, you do it all the time. You mentioned a lady in a grocery store or something. I mean, because you were you've got so many stories about bumping to people. My story outside of your office there. So my contact with Walmart, the guy is kind of our representative who gave us the relationship with Walmart Sam's. He and I were having breakfast one morning outside. And this lady comes and serves us. And it's so funny because you don't know when the Lord's going to start speaking to you, right? So here we are ordering eggs and sausage and biscuits or whatever. And the Lord just starts saying, hey, look, why don't you do want to tell this lady about me? And I'm like, okay, God, let's see what happens. You know, I mean, you never lose when you do that. You may look you may look weird, but you know, you serve the Lord, right? So so I asked his lady, hey, hey, what's going on? She's like, you know, she starts to open up and I said, tell me about a relationship. Do you have a relationship with God? And she's like, you know, no, I don't. She goes, but today is my 28th day sober. She had only been sober for 28 days. And so me and Kelly, so Kelly just loves the Lord too. We just start to talk about the Lord right there at this place called exquisite and McKinney. And what was amazing about this lady, she just started, she just started, she lost it. She just started weeping uncontrollably because I was like, look, I think the Lord is doing this in your life and I told her some things. And then I told her, you know, God is working 10,000 things on her behalf, but she only knows about a couple of them. And that really comes from, from the Bible, from the Old Testament, where he's talking about the Lord is working for those who seek him and you know, are going, oh my gosh, why am I having a mind blank right now? There is a scripture and I'll find it in a second. My mind is when you start talking, I'll look at it. I'm reminded of the what it says. His thoughts for us are as the grains of sand on the beach. Yeah. That's how she thinks about us individually. What do you think? Yes. So anyway, we just start talking and she weeps and then I give her the number to our church and I, and I, you know, because it's, it's a male female relationship. I don't want that. So I, I pass it off to our church and they've got a women's ministry and she texts to that women's ministry now. And then I, and then I was with my mom and dad at the same restaurant a couple weeks and you know, you're ready to describe my mom as being a pistol, which she is. And so she connects with her and so now we're, we're getting it a church from just having, you know, eggs and bacon and biscuits. Yeah. So it's so cool to see what the Lord is doing. Oh, it's Jeremiah 2911. So, there we go. There we go. Yeah. For I know the plans I have for you, plans to give you is open to future, right? Oh, that's a great. But Jeremiah 2911. And it's like, when you say that and people say, wow, God's actually fighting on my behalf. God actually wants to give these things to me. He wants to bless me. He wants to give me hope. I think that's the biggest thing when you're talking about the 73% of America being destroyed. It's because people have lost hope. And what is, what is the joy of the Lord, right? God comes to give us peace, hope and love, right? And so if you have hope, you can go forever on hope. I can go completely broke on hope. Yeah. You know, it's interesting how quickly people who have smiles on their faces acting normal, how quickly they will move to tears. Yeah. Most people around us, if you look through the eyes of God, you can almost see the pain through their laughter. Yeah. And they can move from that laughter to tears to sobbing in moment. Their fear, their anxiety, it's so close to the surface. It's they're so desperate for help. And we have, we have the good news. And when we just throw out, I caught shoving. You follow the nudge, right? Yeah. We all know what that nudge is. God nudges you. You need to say something to that person. You need to call that person that's in need. I'm talking to somebody and God's prompting you, nudge you. I need to pray for this person. I mean, and when you do it, it's like, you walk away and say, I'm so thankful. I'm so thankful I heard your voice and I did it. That experience is amazing, isn't it? Well, and yeah, and there's grace there, right? So, so don't say, you know, don't be weird about it. Say, thus say it the Lord, right? No. But what I say is, hey, look, I'm a Christian and I love Jesus. And I feel like God may be saying this to you. And so there's, you give that element where you can kind of back out. Yeah. Like, I feel like God is saying this. I feel like, I feel like this is going on. And I'm telling you, I've never had a return void. I've never had somebody say, well, weird. Never. Here at Chulavs, a customer calls in and they say, hey, we need to do this and this with our order. And when I, this is what I do when I'm on a customer call, I say, you know, we give them Chick-fil-A customer servers with a smile, my pleasure. But what I, what I always say is, hey, we're not necessarily a Christian company, but we're a company made of Christians. And we have a prayer list and we would love to pray for you. Is there anything that we can pray about? And when people, when people hear that, like the walls fall down, I had this one guy who said, you know, it's amazing that you're saying that. He said, I have an HVAC contractor. He said, I'm, he's an HVAC contractor. He's up in a hot attic all day down in Texas. And we've got a hydrate product, our hydrate product helps people who sweat. And he goes, you know, I love your product, but he said, it's interesting that you're asking about that because I'm waiting on the call to go pick up my brother from prison today. He said, I'm supposed to get the call today to go pick up my brother from prison. And since he's been in prison, there has been an amazing change in my life. And I want him to know that God can do the same thing for him that he did for me. He's like, I've got, I've got a mortgage. I've got a family. I've got kids now. And God wants to do the same thing for him if, if he'll just give his life over to him. So I remember this conversation so vividly. So I, I leaned on him like, is it okay if we just pray about that right now? And he said, yes. So we start praying. And man, I can just hear the tears on the other side of the phone just start coming down. Here's this guy called in. He called in to our company, right? For a product. So, so he's crowned the other phone. So I say in Jesus' name, amen, right? Your lab is your, is your, is your pulpit, right? Yeah, it is. It's a, it's a ministry. Here's the point. At any given time, 90% of the people around us, when we're in public, 90% of the people around us are lost. Yeah. And, and we occasionally get the privilege of talking to one and we're overwhelmed by their needs. Yeah. And by their despair. And the fact of matter is wherever we are, God knows the needs of all those people. We don't see them, but they're all there. And we can be about our business and we can be busy and walk right by them. Or we'd have our antennas up and be looking and listening to God. We can't touch everybody. But if you listen, if your son seep to God's nudge, and that's the best way to say it. I mean, it's not matter you're going to talk to everybody you see, but out of those people around you, as you move through, be listening to God's voice and he'll nudge you to stop. And every time you do that, as you say, it always comes back. It always. And you just say, thank God, I heard your voice. And you used to be. And I come back to that scripture and I say, 43, 10, I appoint you, I appoint you as my witness so that you will believe. And every time, maybe just we can go on and on and on. But talk about our face sharing. This is we close out, Brandon. Talk to those of us, those watching us right now. What it does for them. What would you say? They're missing out on what all happened? Can you I tried to articulate it, but I think it would be good if you could put it through your own experience. We live in different worlds, we're different age, different generation. We're one. I mean, it's just it's just you're my brother. You're really your my brother. I love you. I just it's amazing. But you say things differently than I do. Through your words, why should people start showing their faith? Well, I mean, the only thing that I can think of is if you don't share your faith, you're missing the reason why you're waking up every morning. It's that it's that much of a game changer. It's that much of a life-giving joy. And once you do it, once you have one person come and say, you know what, I want to trust in Christ. I want to give my heart to Lord. And you get to see that. And you don't always get to see the you don't always get to see the fruit at the end of the time. You don't always get to see them come off the tree. Yeah. But man, when you see that and that happens and it's like the Lord who created the heavens and the earth and every planet, everything ever, he's using you to do something that changes somebody's life for eternity. That I remember reminded the the starfish parable. There was this guy on the beach and there's all these starfish that are they're about to die because, you know, they've come out of the beach. And the guy's picking up starfishes and he's throwing them back in the ocean. You know, I don't know if you heard there's thousands of there's thousands of starfish and he's grabbing a starfish and he throws it back in the ocean. And there's no way that he could ever get all the starfishes that are on this this ocean shore. And this lady, this, this newspaper lady she comes up and she goes, sir, I see what you're doing. And I see that you do this every day. You go and grab starfish and you throw them back in the ocean and she goes, there's no way that you can possibly save all of these starfish. And he just looks at her and he smiles. He grabs another one and he chumps in the ocean. He goes, it saved that one. And I think, I think when you look at it that way, you don't look at the entire, you know, damnation of the society of where we are at now. But you look at that guy, Jordan, you look at Joaquin, you look at Will, you look at Michael Bucci, right? Those guys' lives now have ever been, have been forever changed. Yeah. Because of what the God Almighty let me do through him. Yeah. And probably you bet you touched on there, but probably 99% of the people that you're influencing and moving close to the Lord, you'll, you'll not know that till you get to heaven. That's right. I can picture people coming up in heaven and saying, you know, because of your influence, I mean, for all of eternity, we'll be celebrating that. For those who are Christians, the only thing that matters 100 years for now is how many people are having because of our influence. And most Christians have not led one person to the Lord. With opportunity around that, we have to count for that. He's given us influence. We all have influence. People living on the street have influence. You know, what are we doing with their influence? The, the bonus is that when we do that, it comes back on us, you know, we say, I mean, we're doing it because we want to get people in heaven, but he comes back and he says, but I poised me, wouldn't it's for what or do for you? Because they'll give you faith. They'll put a bounce in your steps. So it's a win-win situation, isn't it? And I think, I think we bold about it about it. I think to be very bold about it and say, you know, you may make some mistakes, but you're not going to fail. You may make mistakes and you may not know how to talk to somebody about Jesus, but just try it. If you'll just try it, God will start, I mean, you'll, I sort of feel like a burning sensation come up in the back of my neck and it's like, God's about to speak. Have you ever experienced that, Barry? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. This is great. Brandon, thank you. He is Brandon Pogue, two labs. Go to go to Sam's Club and find two labs, two labs, two labs. We're on commercial for you, but it's a personal testimony. But most importantly, we give testimony. We are so mates. My brother, Brandon, I'm so fortunate to God brought you into my life. We're going to have a lot of fun going forward in this fight. We'll fight the good fight to our last breath. Thanks so much, Barry. Love you. Love your wife. Love your family. Thank you for helping in this journey. This is so much fun. Wonderful. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And everybody, I hope that gives you an idea of what we're talking about here. I mean, this is real. We're just people going through life, but recognizing that our life is ministry. Everything we do is leading people closer further away from God. We're all you are in full-time ministry. We all, we all are. Let's take advantage of it. These perilous times are making it easier than ever. I've been sharing my faith for 40 years. It's never been easier. Now it's a thousand percent. But you heard Brandon's saying the same thing. Everybody, everybody is desperate. There's no question God's allowed these perilous times to bring fear, because fear is not a bad thing. When you're when you're afraid, you're looking for something bigger than you to bring safety to you. And that sets them up for the message of the good news of Jesus Christ. We have the privilege. Think about it, folks, out of thousands of years and billions of people, he's selected us to be here at this moment. At this end of the age, most likely, Jesus is coming. He could come tomorrow. But whatever he's coming, we have the privilege. We not only have her to annoying him, but the privilege of sharing him and everybody needs him. Let's we could do this. We could do this. 30 million of us know the Lord and already have influence, the statistics prove it. Already have direct influence with 80% of the people that are unchurched. We have. This is I mean, the fields are white for harvest, but the laborers are few. That's the only problem is us. Let's we could do this. I mean, it's not a fighter. We can do this. We could change America. We can, we can, you know, between now and the end of time, if we work together, we get millions of people into heaven. If that doesn't let your fire, then your hope is okay. Anyway, I hope you hear this message. Join where this goes to igniteamerican.com. If you want to just learn more about how easy it is, we'll just make it so easy. You just want to jump and start doing it right away. Most importantly, love God with all your heart, mind and soul. It really then happens not a bad degree, okay? Love you all and we'll see you next time.