Seeing People Through Jesus' Eyes

So he's telling me this story, he was wasted, drunk, high, and he walked by into this church. In fact, he was sitting with someone in the bar, and in this bar, he had someone challenged him and says, if he's going with me, he said, I'm not worth it. If he's going with me, I guarantee that Jesus will save him. So he goes in to this church, he follows this guy from his bar, and he says, both high and drunk, and get radically saved. Welcome to the Ignite with Barry McGuire Podcast, where Barry's book and passion for spreading God's love are guaranteed to ignite your life. Now listen in, and prepare to have your life ignited. Carl, it's always fun hanging out with you, brother. You always have all these stories. You have more energy than anybody I know. And always, always, always focused on the individual, the people that are around you, where they're standing with God. I think you don't know where people are. We had this one, this is to me an interesting story, but we were sitting, in fact, I was flying with Jennifer. We're going for some meeting, I don't remember, but we're sitting on this smaller plane. And on the way there, I'm sitting next to a guy, and we just have a friendly conversation. What we're doing, and you always get into a little bit on the Lord, and he's telling me, you know, he's sitting with a friend, and he kind of got into a little bit of a hole in his group. But he's like, we're going back to Barry some issues in his life that, you know, he concerted the Lord, he didn't feel worthy to be saved anymore. I mean, he unloaded on the most crazy thing. Why do you think he did that? I mean, I think that that's what religion is doing to people. Why did he feel safe doing that with you? I mean, we just loved on him, we talked about a little bit what we're doing, and it was just a friend of conversation. But for some reason, in fact, he is friend, I think, trying to talk him out of it, talking to me. He's not going around telling it with everybody. No, but he talks to you, and you test on it lightly, but I don't want to go pass it too fast. He said, you're love. He said that you cared for him. He said there was something. Somehow you connect with him in a way that other people have not been connected with him. In fact, there maybe was a couple of questions that I think we miss in most interaction with most people. Scott obviously have created all in his image, and sees value in him. And a lot of times we, I think, we see past God's greatness in whatever that person is. They might not live it, but it's still there, right? So the big question often, I think, is for me, how has Jesus seen this person? What potential is he seeing exactly? For this lady or this person? How does God see this person? Knowing that God loves this person, as much as he loves you, as much as anybody. He loves this person. I don't see him as wholesome, I don't see him as loving, but God loves him. He sees a destiny, purposes, exactly. He's God sees all that, and we're really tap into that. It's a big point. It's a big point. You see people, you've got to get past the appearance, because a whole lot of people are not what they appear to be. And then you have this religious system. So I asked him a couple of questions, because it was all kind of defeated, right? It's his guy. He had talked about his old background. He had been in rock and roll. He had all kinds of things. So he's going back to Phoenix on this planet. He's going back to do some bearing of whatever he thought was bad in his life. But he told me his testimony. I got him to kind of share what happened. So he's telling me his story. He was wasted, drunk, high, and he walked by into this church. In fact, he was sitting with someone in the bar. I think in this bar, someone challenged him and says, if you used to go with me, he said, I'm not worthy. If you used to go with me, I guarantee that Jesus will save you. So he goes in to this church. He follows this guy from this bar. He says, both high and drunk and get radically saved, right? This happened earlier in his life. This happened earlier in his life. So then he ends up being cleaned up. He comes out of kind of bad lifestyle. Married is this beautiful lady, I think, in kind of church setting. And getting kind of religious holiness, kind of setting. That turns him into a life where nothing you do anymore is good enough. So now, 15 years later, whatever that is, 13 years later, he's going to bury someone's past life. So I'm talking to him. And I'm asking, well, why would Jesus see your worthy then? But not now. So he had been close to God. Yes. But now he's not close to God. And he's feeling unworthy now. And you're saying, why? God doesn't change. In fact, he's so in worthy then, right? He's so some incredible potential. And now you come to a place where totally disqualify everything you are. So you think he, now he doesn't. Now when you're much better, you're married. You have kids. You're doing great. It's the gospel of grace. So when we share faith, in fact, even he become embarrassedly like, well, you know, he started crying and, you know, won't mean to pray. So become embarrassing for Jennifer. Remember a little bit. So the beautiful, a beautiful moment where I think this is part of the problem when we speak to people. If you just love people and try to see the potential that Jesus sees in people, and not add a bunch of things that disqualify people, I think the gospel is so attractive. If we can just get out of the way and share how incredible God's grace is. It's a good news. It's the love of God. That's right. Why are we so resistant to say, God loves you. So we see everything differently, right? I mean, the world, the christian most Christian see it with all this confusion. In fact, it's just so simple. It is. It is. It is. Love of God for the love of Jesus. Yeah. Oh, it is. It is an amazing. Well, you do that so well, Carl. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Get to grab a moment with you. Right, right. Absolutely. My privilege. It's a special time. Thank you so much. You