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And then all of a sudden they start warming up and the Uber driver is crying when we get out at the airport hugging us and showing pictures of the family and We're worshiping the Lord save or not saved. It is Amazing when you do that and our entire married life when we come home at the end of the day The most exciting days are like when we actually see Christ walk someone across their line and we get to be there Welcome to the ignite with Barry McGuire podcast where Barry's book and passion for spreading God's love are guaranteed to ignite your life Now listen in and prepare to have your life ignited Hi everybody welcome back to ignite. I have some special friends with you. You might think that we've been friends for a lot of years Um, this is how God works when he brings It's children together that are like minded That have the same love have the same passion. I'm talking about dr Assess Scott and Pam pile their precious people are not living next to me They live on the other side. I'm on the west coast there. They're one of some of the east coast guys And but we met at Grand Canyon University. They were having a business couples Conference and speaking to students And um, boy, you guys It was like for the first conversation on we're off. We kind of forgot about everybody else. We have so much fun So true. It's amazing how that happens But tell a little bit about your wife or let me do it when give a little position. So everybody knows who you are where you're coming from Yeah, so we're we are a dynamic duo Uh, she's retired doctor now author uh, we own Books up and coming up Book she just did at Museum of the Bible. She just had a big launch at the museum Just a couple of days because I know what to date this is to go on for years years But she have a book side to come out museum of the Bible. That's that's awesome Yes, it was amazing. Yeah, she's doing a great job And so and then I own a financial services firm and we own parts of other companies and about nine years ago When I turned 50 we decided that we were going to continue to grow to give And that God wanted us to keep these economic inches going so we can put it back into the kingdom of God Uh, and so we really are I mean tag team Okay, talk before that leading up to that moment in your life Okay, give us a little snapshot of what that was was like. Oh wow Yeah, we both got married for all the wrong reasons we weren't saved. We didn't know the Lord and um What I love to tell this story because um We truly it was a rapid courtship and He was the wild and crazy guy that I had never been around and I was maybe a little bit of stability For him I was just finishing my residency um But I had no experience and faith growing up um Had never been in a church and he had a bad experience growing up um from religion and a little bit of what he saw Yeah, I described them see between what he heard in church and what he experienced in in his home and and elsewhere And so he'd never really had a personal relationship with Christ And God ambushed me He ambushed me and shocked us uh, I mean in a in a accident I was in the back of an ambulance on the way to the hospital and Barry um God allowed me to taste eternal death and In this crisis moment of dying I cried out in the name of Jesus Christ. Please save me and I The next morning came to in a hospital a new creation And I was not so happy Because I had at that point my life life Jesus was Santa Claus and tooth fairy And all of a sudden my husband who I had married um as the wild and crazy guy who I still love deeply two years in He's now you know wanting to read the Bible and go to church and He's trying to witness to me, but I I just Was was not a doctor's got saved. I mean they came they got everybody around me. I mean it was like anybody I could tell Except except she didn't want to have anything to do it. I used to have to hide in our house to read the Bible So she wouldn't find me reading it and getting mad. Oh my goodness Yes, now I can keep up with her can I say something very quick uh, there are a lot of people that are wild and crazy and And rejecting God and whatever yes, and some gave save and some don't some God speaking to all of this Yes, but um I my view of it is that You without even knowing you had a heart for God there was fertile ground there Yes, and he'll speak to some people that same situation where they're dying or whatever And they're still cursing God and going on and and paying no attention But you had this heart within you God gave you He did but God knew that and he had plans for you and he did he does because that he touched your heart and brought He orchestrated your life. Obviously. I mean, it's just it's a beautiful story He takes us from lostness to Who have a time of our lives this is great and I can look back now better Just what you said and see my life now from this side How is chasing and trying to find him because I was just had this whole inside of me So I tried with money and fun and activities and all that the world offers and just always left me hungry And you can look now back and see that I he was chasing me and I was I was searching in the him Yeah, and then he arranged that meeting in the back of an ambulance Oh Yeah, you're what I call an exit waiting to happen I You know, we've we've had a lot of conversations about the nudge how he nudged us to share our faith And um and most of those are like momentarily. I got the person right beside me but but some are longer term Yeah, and I have some chum lines I call them, you know, and you go deep sea fish. It's their watch out. We're fishers of men. They're on chum And I've been throwing out chum to some of my best Friends Yes Yes now with with no return Mm-hmm Yeah, um, I've I've given him my best shot loving Hearing when I came up without a fending then I never fend anybody But their heart's so hard Mm-hmm Their hearts so hard and they're caught up in their things and their cars and their Their parties and they if they want to go to Europe tomorrow, they go to Europe tomorrow Right and and that's their god Yeah, and as much as I've shared the gospel with them over something why I want it's over 30 years Yes, and I've told you so many times. I don't want to go to him without you. So help me I do not want to go to him without you. I tell a lot of people that but him and fatically and and I often say to Christians I have car guy friends that are living better lives and most of you They're they're they're we're giving they were carry car guys are very giving people just as a community They're just giving generous kind people. It's a wonderful community Kind of that god family country kind of crowd, right? Yeah, they got that they got that they're solid But that but but that's their god and they can't see beyond that They think that they'll have to give up something and be churchy and Like a monk They don't understand the period, but anyway, I don't want to blame it. That's a whole for the whole of the seven the point is You God was repairing you and you had a heart for God what you didn't know, but what God was about to do for you You're hungry for it. Yes. Hey, man Absolutely When I my ad berry is He had praying grandparents and so the one thing in his life from a young child He he heard the word and in this unconscious state You know, I I'm thinking he's potentially dying. He's unconscious But he remembers the scripture every new will bow every tongue confess every new will bow every tongue confess And so the prayers Of his grandparents from 30 years ago just like their friend The seed you've planted You don't know When they will be ripened and watered by our lord because he desires a nonchal parish And it may be When you have the world and worldly things you don't recognize your need for God But when you come to an illness and awareness of your own mortality Then you begin to think about the things of God and the seeds that are planted and so I believe Truthfully all those seeds will not come back without Answer prayer because very much more committing to prayer This Is powerful the word of God shall not return void right never never you know been Carson or speaking not about he's in love to christian What's the Lord but he was speaking something about now the brain Works I was listening to a few years ago and it really spoke to me. He said you know your brain never forgets anything You remember everything the good and the bad the preaching and the non preaching And he said when we make decisions we tend to make our decisions based on the sum total of what we've heard Mm-hmm, so we have a lot of people around us who've really never heard I mean they've heard Jesus and whatever they may even believe that Jesus son of God But they don't understand the gospel and how much he loves them. They don't know that Yeah We made me the first person in that process And we think it's not returning it's it's it's it's it's it's it's just void they didn't hear me They can't get away from it. Here's the point I want to make they get the scape it Even if they're mad at you and I never get anybody mad. He's I just so God loves they don't get mad when they when you so God loves them But no matter what If nothing else they leave me hearing my words God loves you It is a plan for you. Yes And if only that seed I know I mean there's there's no conversation we have With people that doesn't bring fruit It may be years later A lot of conversations later. I just had the privilege of No longer cross the line. It's a taste for it Yeah, it needs to be a part of that every moment because everybody around us is in a journey There are a journey and we get to move it just a little bit closer every day. Move everybody You know, I know you guys we jump in Yeah, if we jump in and participate in that journey with others Just to beat I mean and the overwhelming To see someone a friend of ours For almost 30 I mean almost 30 years Who's been in church and been around it and been around us and we've been praying and talking to come to that point Of the end of himself And then crying out and starting to really ask questions and to share the gospel and pray with him I I became so Physically incapacitated with emotion that I literally called another friend to make sure We walked through it because I was overwhelmed with emotion of this journey that I had the privilege to be on wow And My pastor here in Arizona Luke Barnett Pabitus pastor. I have I have Jack Gibbs in California. I go back and forth to two great pastors And Luke preached two Sundays ago broken or busted Mm-hmm, and he said when your butt is like I do something wrong busted You know I know and you're broken You're not broken You're what you just described and it was a share of faith with people get we're broken We're broken for the for the lives around us that are that are lost. We ache For them. Yes, that's our hearts desire for that. That's what life is all about That's the only thing we have to do of any eternal significance is ministering to them Yes, and yeah, and hurt for them and and do it on a love not out of condemnation or Amy and superior already know that just No matter It's almost more fun. They then they don't look like us And they have Perception was that are different and we love on them Yeah, they don't know what to do with it Instead of Sarah and instead of sharing judgment share joy. Yeah, you know instead of hopelessness share the hope And cuz they're And and I just want to say It can feel intimidating at first sharing your faith because You you know, I know when I started and it's like I don't want to do it wrong and perhaps Mess the stuff for someone Okay time out time out Explain I wanted to go into the word detail. This is important because a lot of people are now Where you were then So what kept you from wanting to share your faith Well, but I didn't I continue to share my faith But I wasn't very successful in terms of uh Outcome, you know, I was sharing my faith that the very kind of strict past of The Romans wrote and and it's a great way to share your faith but I had Not been open to the Holy Spirit in terms of let to say when to say it and stuff times Jesus saves and I wouldn't have to say say anything but but the gift of like god really teaching me and stripping me of all the things that I Needed to be taken from me and my identity fully in Christ because she's a doctor, you know, it's a checklist right So she's doing it mechanically. I literally had a list of who I shared with And intellectually, but this is not and then like you all exercise. Would you call it the Gestapo? God said she used to want to slam them across the goal line I thought it's like a stop of gospel because everybody heard it say But um guy really reveals to me in a time so 40 Oh It was not me That was saving them it is Christ that is saving them yeah, and for those that are out there that are are like Thinking you have to say the right words Trust the Lord Just say something even if it's can I pray for you and listen to the Holy Spirit And he'll give you the words and he'll begin to show you the fruit That for us That's amazing that is it that's where you have intimacy With God. It's not a sales pitch folks. It's not as right right mark 1311 actually says don't prepare We've been told to memorize and get all this stuff He says don't prepare even better Luke 12 12 says the Holy Spirit get this folks the heart You just said I'm just giving you a scripture to back it up The Holy Spirit will give you the word to say when you need them Yeah, and so it's not about for you can't possibly prepare what people are gonna say to you you can't He just can And so you love on people here's how it works right quick you love on people They sent your love is real the Holy Spirit is there before you They're firming your love is real they open up I mean oftentimes within five minutes a complete stranger open up and tell you their deepest needs It's amazing how fast that operates and then you don't have to say or let's see what scripture or You just love on them And the Holy Spirit supernaturally gives you the words exercise he brings scriptures to you to your remembrance that you've forgotten And it's a spiritual experience and so when you stop trying to control it That's where the fear is saying stops us from sharing our faith out of fear That's his main weapon against us this fear if he keeps you in fear you don't have faith it without faith It's impossible. Please God. So he's he's he has a church isolated. There's about 10% of us about three 30 million people in the United States that are Bible believing Jesus following believers But almost all are living in fear the studies say that they're coming out of living in fear So fear of not being able to share a sphere of not saying the right words. That's Satan He's trying to convince you you can't and you can't do it and you can't that's why you don't have to You just so amazing the experience folks. I gotta tell you The first time you experience the the the whole thing of the Holy Spirit speaking through you And also you're speaking scriptures you haven't been followed for years and you're according to the verbatim You know what I'm talking about. Absolutely. That's exciting And you know what to pay you think you it's intimacy with God And Isaiah 4310 is here's why he appoints my witness so that you believe He says so should believe more. He says this is how you believe and know and understand that I am God Because there's no other Experience in our human experience that allows us to to understand and and have the flow of the Holy Spirit Manifesting coming through us and speaking through us and changing lives and programs. There's nothing like it in the world You're absolutely very experienced. You're trying to share with you. Haven't done it yet You're missing out on what it means to be a Christian. You really are This is what being a Christian is all about what these folks are saying just for the generous of their hearts And God has led along this path and and quite proud just say one more quick like I want to hear you speak But I say it's like shooting baskets don't expect to be a great faith shareer The first time you do it. Don't you can't be great at anything the first time you do it unless you totally rely on the Holy Spirit That happens pretty quickly But I like it to shoot you baskets, you know, you can be allows you Not a basketball player unquarted, but if you work at low enough research you start switching them Yeah, but you know what well that very first experience you're in the game And as bad as we were we first started back in 1973 we made all kinds of mistakes, but there was always fruit We always left an impact we even despite of our naivety And trying to do it our own strength there was There was there was fruit that was being planted we could see that and people's lives. So it's You're talking about it. It's just like wonderful Let me just say your experience. So I want to go back to you. I didn't talk it too much. You're my guest You're living it. You're living your life is an expression of what we often talk about here And it's and but living with others and talking about sharing the gospel It encourages you to go share more And then when you share it and you realize you know I know I'm ill-equipped I know walking up. I'm ill-equipped But just the opening of the mouth with the heart of sharing Jesus Christ the supernatural takes place And then you walk away with your faith Oh much bigger. Oh so blown away by what God just did because you know When you walk up you don't even want to say you don't know what to do is this person gonna slap me Scream at me yell at me the Uber driver is gonna think I'm a freak And then all sudden they start warming up and the Uber driver is crying When we get out at the airport hugging us and showing pictures of the family and we're worshiping the Lord Save or not saved it is amazing when you do that Amazing and and I I just want to say for us Like in our entire married life Our evenings when we come home at the end of the day the most exciting days are like when we actually see Christ Walk someone across their line and we get to be there. It's like it to be there. There's nothing in our worldly experience That surpasses and I also want to say Everyone has a personal testimony And oftentimes our personal testimony is the entry door of explaining who we were and Who we became especially when only because of Christ and not because of anything we deserve or still deserve and and People want to know it's just grace. Yeah, and glad to love them and That speaks to all peoples No matter where they come from is they want to be loved Yeah, and especially when they see you as they think you've this hoyd you know this Christian and you everything's great and y'all just this life and then you start asking them about their life and you start talking to them about and then They realize you're a broken person that without Jesus is just a total mess a total wreck without Jesus and it's Jesus And so if anything you see good earth anything you see calm or peace or love or joy. It's Jesus because we know who we were before him And she can't deny what God's done in my life and I cannot deny what God's done in her life And that is so affirming to each other and marriage But she's right we high five at the end of the day when God gives us the pleasure Of not just sharing the gospel then someone receiving the gospel and you know A new creation walked away from that that conversation. Oh, yeah That'll do it baby. We're running out of we're running out tell here. Can you guys do a new another podcast with us well As long as anything with you you had us at hello Barry McGuire We need love you and Karen y'all are amazing And uh because we didn't even get to get into the the details of sharing with mechanics and talk about through it It's kind of fun because People look at we're entrepreneurs. Okay. I mean we've we've we've done some stuff and we've generated somebody we have things And there's an awful lot of people that lust for what we have And I think that's our success And and don't realize to us it's meaningless That's right except that we can use it for God. He gives us more You know he trusts us if if if he could trust him with some things you trust you with more things And now it's getting us more than any of us at ever expected But we're we're using it for his glory. We're using it to give us a better opportunity about larger territory to proclaim his name in the end Taking all away from us folks. Our joy is the same Our story's got another stuff. I know We're only talking about that in our next podcast. 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