April 14, 2025

Is Revival Happening?

Is Revival Happening?
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Is Revival Happening?

In this special episode, Barry welcomes the director of Teen Challenge Romania, Catalin Baciu. Listen in as they discuss whether or not there’s revival happening today — and what happens when we love others with God’s love as we share our faith! 

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(00:00) Spreading God's Love Through Ministry
(03:43) Global Awakening
(12:21) Faith Sharing in Secular Environments
(21:28) God's Love and Sharing Faith

00:00 - Spreading God's Love Through Ministry

03:43:00 - Global Awakening

12:21:00 - Faith Sharing in Secular Environments

21:28:00 - God's Love and Sharing Faith

00:00 - Speaker 1 You're connected with God. His love, his love over all, and she goes back to that. His love flows out, yes, and it's like rivers of living water, because it brings life to us. It's what life's all about. 00:12 - Speaker 2 There's nothing more impactful than that love that you allow God to put it through you, and out of that love the truth comes, and the only thing that heals is the truth in anything, and the only thing that brings life is the truth. Yeah, yeah. 00:26 - Speaker 3 Welcome to the Ignite with Barry Meguiar podcast, where Barry's book and passion for spreading God's love are guaranteed to ignite your life. Now listen in and prepare to have your life ignited. 00:41 - Speaker 1 Welcome back to Ignite, a very special guest, one of my best buddies in the whole world. I love you. You know that I don't know 20 years, I don't know. We go back a long way. So this is the Teen Challenge Director for Romania. Okay, cataline, we call him Catalin and I don't get messed up in the last name. I'll misspell it and mispronounce it, but Cataline's my buddy and we have had great times together and Mike Kennedy, who was with us in our ministry we came over to you one time just to say I just want to get away from all the glitz, I want to get our hands dirty. 01:21 - Speaker 2 I remember that. 01:27 - Speaker 1 Boy, you did that real quick. I mean, we're down the sewers, yep, or those four lost folk and drugs and smoking glue not smoking, but sucking inhaling glue and they're like zombies, aren't they? 01:34 - Speaker 2 thousands and thousands of them living in the sewages, leaving the state orphanages, ending up on the streets and living in the sewages. Winters are very tough, so they survive there. But hey, it doesn't matter how dark the dark is when the light comes. 01:52 - Speaker 1 God can capture our hearts Exactly, and that's what he wants us to do, and we want to run from darkness. Actually, the darkness are the greatest miracles. 02:00 - Speaker 2 Yes. 02:01 - Speaker 1 And at a time when I just needed a reset did I get a reset, and it's lasted me just as poignantly now, those visions are still in my mind. And, of course, what's going on with your ministry? Give us a little quick update. It's not about your ministry, but I want to promote you right quick. You live in God's favor. You live in the favor of God. You know that, and what's been happening here recently is just give a little quick insight and teach on Romania. Then we'll get to the sharing faith stuff. 02:32 - Speaker 2 I do believe that we all live in God's favor. It's how much we treasure that and what we do with that. And I want to thank you, barry, for being here and for you being more than a friend to us, and thank you for what you've been doing in Romania over 22 years now oh man, because you're a big part of what's happening there to all the people. 02:55 - Speaker 1 Thank you, that's very kind. But it's true and we've been blessed by it in so many ways. So tell us about the ministry right. Give us a two-minute ta two minute we're doing this? 03:05 - Speaker 2 Yes, so 22 years ago we started. We've been working with street kids for 70 years and 22 years ago we started the Ministry Call Team Challenge and because all these kids were living on the sewages, they started using heroin. 03:21 - Speaker 1 We had no idea what to do, how they could do it, how they get it. They had no money. I mean, just doesn't even make sense. 03:26 - Speaker 2 The heroin was cheap. The main route from Afghanistan to the Western world was through Romania and it was very cheap and they could get it. They would beg for money. You'd see seven, eight, ten years olds shooting heroin on the sewages. 03:40 I saw it, so we had no idea what to do. We heard of the ministry called Teen Challenge. We heard of the powerful fruits that God was doing through Teen Challenge. Sure, long story short, the Lord orchestrated, we started it and it's been 22 years now. We have three centers some of those kids and two more to open very soon. Wow, some of the in the church downtown Bucharest and an outreach. We'll talk about it, but it's like an outreach that now we go to schools all over Romania. We just reached over 100,000 kids, students, life. And so it's been like you said. We've been living in the grace, we've been watching God what he's doing and it's yeah, it's, it's, it's amazing. 04:22 - Speaker 1 And I always feel he moved to support it. Right now they can send checks for Romania Teen Challenge to Southern California Teen Challenge. 04:29 - Speaker 2 Yes, and in a memo to write for Romania yes for Romania Southern. 04:34 - Speaker 1 California Teen Challenge is Riverside. Don't have the address on Chicago Avenue, but send it to them or call them and send money for Bucharest, for. 04:42 - Speaker 3 Romania Teen. 04:42 - Speaker 1 Challenge. There's no better ministry, no better place to put your money and get the biggest bang for your buck. 04:47 - Speaker 3 Thank you. 04:48 - Speaker 1 But anyway, tell us right quick what's going on. I mean, we're having revival here in the world. The church is still sitting kind of flat. It's like Trump. Okay, trump got elected, we can relax now, but the world's going unglued. The statistics are that the world the 80% of them are not Christians are waking up and wondering where God is and asking all kinds of questions and really seeking God. It's unprecedented. We never see anything like it. It's fantastic. Bible sales are off the charts here in America now. They're buying Bibles. They're trying to find out where God is and we need to do a better job of responding back. But is that kind of thing happening other places like Eastern Europe? Are you feeling a wave of anything that's going on in the United States taking place there? Or is God just supernaturally doing it on his own? 05:40 - Speaker 2 for Eastern Europe. I was going to say that's exactly what happens there right now too, because the war in Ukraine, the news of the war, what happens with Western Europe, with the European Union? Then Trump gets elected and that really stirred up, especially the Christians. Like you said, it's a moment of a wake up and people are wondering what is going on. 06:09 - Speaker 3 They know it's supernatural. 06:10 - Speaker 2 And to be honest with me. We live one of the best times possible for people who think kingdom, for people who think this life on earth is a vapor. It's a great reminder for all of us that life on earth is a vapor and all that matters what we do for the king on this earth and getting somebody closer to Jesus today in everything. And that fear and we've seen that that fear should be in Romania in particular people that don't know because they can fear paralyzes you, but if you realize it's an opportunity to do more for Christ. 06:45 - Speaker 1 I think it's. It's an opportunity to do more for christ. I think it's fear paralyze you. 06:47 It also sterilizes you yes, if you're in fear, you're not in faith I like that, so you can't share your faith right which is, which is so the church is basically sterilized, afraid to do anything, not even sure of their own, what's going on, or leave alone giving somebody else believe in the else, what they'll say or their reaction. So we live in fear. God has reverence. He'll let us stay there 10% of the US and we can talk and praise God and all wonderful stuff. But he'll just keep us at 10% and that number is actually going down in America and he's fine with that, as long as he keeps us in fear. That's the problem we've got to. He keeps us in fear. That's the problem. We've got to get out of fear. We've got to break loose and start having some fun Fear does not come from God. 07:29 - Speaker 2 There's only one fear that comes from God, but we live amazing times, in my opinion. 07:36 - Speaker 1 When you have fear, what you're saying to God is you don't trust him, you can't get away from that. When you fear, when you fear anything, I don't care what it is you're saying to God I don't trust you with this, I don't believe you can help me. I don't know if you can help me with this. That's serious, go ahead. I'm sorry, it's just a point that needs to be made and, of course, it's all over the place. So are you sensing anything in your government, any change in your government days? 08:03 - Speaker 2 they kind of status quo I think what happened with uh trump being elected it really stirred up things more than than I could ever imagine, really, uh, we've seen a lack of leadership, uh, in politics, in everybody, especially in politics in romania and eastern europe, uh and uh, of course, in Western Europe. 08:25 So, with Trump becoming the president and the way he started the president, I think he worked everybody out Day one, the decision being so decisive, and that's what he's been lacking, because we, as a Christian, we have to be decisive. It doesn't matter what we do If we're not decisive, it's terrible. So to see a man at that level for us you look at America, you go, okay, it's the best country in the world and to see a man that decisive that does things with and, of course, not everybody likes Trump and not everybody. I'm not even talking about politics right now. I'm talking about principles and values and decisiveness, and I think that opened the door for our politicians. About politics right now, yeah, I'm talking about principles and values and decisiveness, and I think that opened the door for our politicians to take decisions based on values principles more than ever really because that's what I was, that's what I was hoping to hear, because we know what's happening here. 09:18 - Speaker 1 You can say whatever you want with trump, but you can't deny the fact he's opened the door for christians. You know our pastor to Tommy. 09:24 Barnett preached a sermon right after the election and he said Trump just announced, president Trump just announced there's going to be the golden years for America these next four years, he said. I agree with him. If the church wakes up, if we don't take advantage of this moment in time, meaning get off the bench and get into the game, folks, and start sharing your faith it's wide open. You have no excuse for not sharing your faith anymore. If we don't do that as a church, we'll lose this opportunity. It will not be the golden years, it will be the lost years. 09:57 - Speaker 2 Yes, I agree with that 100%. But I think that the way he stirred things up, the way he woke up it was that, you know, he woke up the politicians, he woke up the leadership because people were looking only at dictators of being decisive. And you know, now you have a leader that says it's time for decisions. 10:22 - Speaker 1 When he was president, before he made it okay to say Merry Christmas again, We'd gotten to the point where you couldn't say Merry Christmas. Everybody's saying Happy Holidays. And because of his last ministry, he right off said it is Merry Christmas, folks Celebrate Christmas. He's done the same thing now, but by not being apologetic for being a Christian. 10:40 - Speaker 2 I mean the prayers in the chamber there, the prayers we as Christians. I mean the prayers in the chamber there, the prayers we as Christians. We almost were afraid of praying in publics or in school, and now you see a president do that and promote that. I think that really stirs things up. 10:56 - Speaker 1 I mean, you can call him whatever you want. You can call him a Christian, not a Christian. 10:59 - Speaker 3 You can call him a rascal. 11:00 - Speaker 2 He's all this. 11:00 - Speaker 1 And none of us are perfect, but what we do know is he's raising the banner and for the freedom to stop persecuting Christians. Christians are the most persecuted group in the world. Look at what's going on? We never talk about Christians being persecuted. 11:13 - Speaker 2 I think it's a new way of courage and a new way of courage for Christians to share their faith which should always be the case, but I think now it's almost like the the gates have. So do you? 11:26 - Speaker 1 sense, I mean from me, I mean you're, you're a little I said, unless you had you talked to leaders and teen challenge, particularly all over. Are you sensing there's this mood on a glow? It could be sensing a global revival right now. That's, that's what I'm hoping for. Do you sense that that might be taking place? 11:44 - Speaker 2 I totally sense that we are at the verge of a revival, but before we revival, there's always going to be things that were stored up. The reason that is a revival is because then there was a need, there was fear was overwhelming, it was confusion. Yeah, people moved from looking at themselves and looking at the idols they've been building building to seeing everything gone and being what's next, and they start looking up. The moment you start looking up and asking God for his will, his thoughts, his plans, his presence, we're going to get ignited. We're going to get on fire. 12:21 - Speaker 1 My experience wherever I'm in, of course, I'm looking all the time and half my life, or more than half my life, is secular because I'm a car guy and most car guys, quite frankly, are not Christian. They're better living than most Christians. They live better lives than most Christians, but they're too busy with their cars and having fun and they're moneyed and whatever. So I live very much in a world that is not Christian per se. Indeed, yes, but not saved and never accepted Jesus Christ. But I hear the same question all over. What's going on? God must be up to something. That was a miracle. We don't understand it. God is doing to. They wanna know, and it was like inquiring minds wanna know. Everywhere I go I hear this and I'm wondering if you're hearing the same thing. 13:02 - Speaker 2 The same, thing, the same thing in Eastern Europe. 13:05 - Speaker 1 The secular world up and I say you know, the crops are white for harvest. Yes, they're white for harvest. The labors are few. We're living exactly in that scripture the labors are few, they're ready for us. We're the one that's holding it back at this point. 13:19 - Speaker 2 See, I work with the young generation we have in our discipleship programs. We have in, you know we call it rehabs, but really I don't do rehab, I just share about Christ with every person. If somebody's in chains, if somebody's just desperate, you just share Christ and that is hope. 13:38 - Speaker 1 And let me just say the Universal Exclamation of Teen Challenge biggest, oldest, most successful program in the world for getting people off of drugs is God has created all of us with a void a void, a god-shaped void, that only he can fill. It's very simple to understand. We try to fill that void with drugs or sex, or fame, or money, or you go on and on and on and every one of those things satisfy for a moment, and then you want more, and then you want more. That's why there's such recidivism. You go to non-christian uh rehab programs. You get off, but the but this, but the hole is not filled and the craving is still there, and so the recidivism rates is just incredible, like it's never ending. But when you feel, when you ask jesus christ to come in and fill that void, the, the, the need for drugs or money or sex, all that goes away. It's just amazing. That's why we have an 86% cure rate. This is Teen Challenge, okay. So anyway, to understand where this man is coming from and what has his heart it's about Jesus. 14:40 - Speaker 2 It is. 14:40 - Speaker 1 It is rehab, but really it's giving him the Lord and teaching him how God loves him. The rehab is a bonus. 14:47 - Speaker 2 I think what really matters like think about it, this kids, that we serve psychiatrists, psychologists. They say, hey, they are gone, they've been, they missed, they are not developed emotionally, they missed you know so many things. They're not going to make it. Well, some of them became businessmen today, oh my goodness. Hundreds. Well, some of them became businessmen today. All this, oh yeah, there's hundreds. I saw your love, good, gracious, I mean it's changed. My business man, I know you have great jobs where family. You saw the girl. 15:14 - Speaker 1 There there's no hope, and now they're a businessman or a teacher or whatever I mean, there's no greater joy you know, god can do that the Apostle Paul says what will be my reward, what would be my crown when I get to heaven? 15:27 he says it's you, those that we lead to the lord, will be our crown, our lord in heaven for eternity. That's it. If you were to die right now, when you go to heaven, how many people would be there because of your influence? That's, that's. That's the question. It's not a question. That's the question. Wherever you are, you have influence. What do you do with your influence? And think about what you're doing today. Think of everything you're doing today. What are you doing today that has eternal consequences? What Name it? 15:57 Go through all the important things. You're stressing over things. You've got to do all this, you've got to do all this, you got all this. What one of those things has eternal significance? There's only one. If you're using those opportunities, experiences, to lead people to Jesus, nothing else matters. I mean, that's, that's just the truth. So we're about faith sharing and you're about faith sharing. Do you have any fun story? You always have, and we just we haven't been together. We just got together right quick and get to see her for the first time in a long time. But she always have fun stories to tell me warm my heart a little bit with some real life stories from Eastern Europe, from Romania. It's the same story. 16:37 - Speaker 2 A couple of weeks ago we had one minister that came visiting one of our centers. So the minister came with his entourage, came with directors from the Minister of Culture, so there were about 10 people there and they came to the center just to see visit. No particular purpose, no interest in hearing how we're doing what we're doing, but they came to visit. So while we were sitting there, and for me's always like Lord, we all need, we all need hope, we all need something that is beyond our earth, like like just what you're saying earlier, and I don't know who said it, but he said that every everybody, every time somebody opens a bottle or shoots a dose or sniffs cocaine, they're looking for God, they just settle for less, they just don't know. 17:33 - Speaker 1 So in that crowd over there. They're looking for peace, they're looking for peace, they want peace. Everybody wants peace, they want peace, and you find it's something that's so addictive, that so tears you apart. 17:42 - Speaker 2 Exactly so. We're sitting there in the meeting and one of our students we called the people who are in the program started to share. It was a girl there Started to share how she was transformed, how she never had the faith, how she never heard. She knew about God, yeah, but didn't know him. She knew about. She heard about God but didn't know him. She knew about. She heard about Jesus but didn't know Jesus. And now she was glowing with hope. 18:12 - Speaker 1 That's where a lot of people are that are watching us right now. Yes, they know. They know Most of my friends that are not saved. They know who Jesus is. They would swear a stack of Bibles he's the Son of God, but they've never received him. They've never accepted him as their Savior and their Lord. 18:25 - Speaker 2 They just keep on walking and that's like the greatest decision in life that you can take. And this man was the director in the minister. He was very upset with God. He was very bitter against God and for all reasons in his own mind mind because he had a 30-year-old daughter that died on overdose. Now nobody knew there. We didn't know his colleagues. 18:51 - Speaker 1 So how did this change it Real quick. 18:53 - Speaker 2 So he's sitting there and then he hears all this testimony, he starts weeping From her testimony, yes, from her testimony. And then we start talking with him about Christ and about the hope of Christ. And then, out of nothing, just like, we asked him sir, can we? 19:15 - Speaker 1 pray for you. The testimony of the new believer convicted the pastor. 19:19 - Speaker 2 And it was so authentic, so real, and we all prayed for him. And he just said to us. He said I may never understand why my daughter died of an overdose, but I am open for the first time to know Christ. And we prayed for him and he's a minister. Hey. 19:40 - Speaker 1 I don't know why he took my daughter, why he took Nicole. She's 49 years old, most prolific face-sharer I've ever known, and I called you to talk because I knew you loved her. And you said I was thinking in my mind, boy, it'd be really neat to have have Kathleen speak at the funeral. And you said to me oh, I'm coming. I said what? I'm coming? What do you mean you're coming? He said I'm coming to Nicole's funeral. I can't miss her funeral. Well then, would you speak? And that was amazing. That was amazing and we had 1,000 people at the funeral for Nicole McGuire's Celebration of Life and it went on YouTube. You know how many people watched that video. 20,000 people have watched the video of a funeral. You go to youtube and go to mcguire mcguire celebration of life, and so do I have any questions about god taking her? 20:38 We had, we had an opportunity to accept the lord right then a number of people that were hard-nosed accepted, accepted the Lord at the service, and hundreds I mean I have no idea how many people have sentenced me because so many people have said they've accepted the Lord from watching the video. Isn't God good? Give me a spontaneous one, just something that you meet on the street or something that you because this is basically about a spontaneous ministry, not a group thing which is, how can all of us move everybody every day closer to Jesus, being open and watching, right, watching all the time, watching for the opportunity. I say it's kind of like when you're playing basketball you watch for that opening and you drive. You see the opening, you drive for the basket. It's fun to do that for the Lord. So do you have a fun story from recent times that you could share with me, right quick? 21:24 - Speaker 2 fun story from recent times that you could share with me right quick. I remember one after our son died. He died of cancer when he was 27 years old, which again broke our heart. We didn't understand, but we trusted God for everything. I was in a place and I met somebody that was buying some flowers and the person was there and I went to him and we were in line and I said what did you get the flowers for? And he said it's for my son. Oh, I said for your son. He said, yeah, my son died and I'm taking the flowers to the cemetery. 22:07 - Speaker 1 Boy, that was a God moment. 22:10 - Speaker 2 He put that conversation out and I looked at him and we started sharing yeah, of course, and he starts weeping. Of course I start weeping, we start bawling, I mean both. And then, but I had the hope of Christ. I knew where our son Yannouts is because he lived for Christ, he served Christ. He was just an extraordinary kid, Although he was rescued from the sewages because we adopted him. Remember, the Lord used him in a powerful way. So I was sharing that with the guy. And then we started praying and we just had that moment of prayer in a public place and the person after we prayed looked at me and he said I need to talk to you more. And out of that moment, that open door. 22:56 - Speaker 1 Out of the tragedy, out of the tragedy, out of the tragedy. 22:59 - Speaker 2 God's doing things, he really is, all family comes to know Christ, and in this life the whole family came after that Christ. And in this life the whole family came after that. It's all about that In this life. 23:10 - Speaker 1 It's all about that, wow it is you miss, that you miss everything else. The Romans 8 says all things work together for good. 23:17 He didn't necessarily all things work together for me for good. I like that Because for him, for good is is souls. If he could use something bad in my life to lead more people to the lord, then you know, if I die it's going to be leading people to jesus. So there's no fear in that when you know that, no matter what the bad thing is, he's in the business of leading people closer to the lord. And sometimes we don't end up, you know, having a company or wife or cars what I have sometime that are much more prolific. Face shares are are tough times but they're using it to the glory of God and their testimony I said your testimony is way better than mine. They expect me to smile. Of course they don't know I kept smiling in all the bad times and that's the keys. Just, you never lose your joy. 24:04 - Speaker 2 You never lose your joy. With Christ, you never lose your joy. 24:07 - Speaker 1 Anything that comes to mind something in an airport or walking the street, or something just spontaneously, just popped around you and you were not expecting it and all of a sudden there was somebody in your face that God put you together with, and you just know that's a God thing, I think for me personally, because it's every person I met somehow we start talking. 24:26 - Speaker 2 It's so great to know people and you're asking a question and from that question you go into more of a talk Personal conversation. 24:39 - Speaker 1 I know you do that. That's why I was encouraged to say that All the time. Folks, they'll know you're my disciple. He says they'll know you're my disciple by your love and quite frankly, he didn't say by by your bible, knowledge or your oratory yes or or your big personality or your money or your cars or anything else. They'll know you by your love, and when you just love on people, I know you do it. 25:01 - Speaker 2 I mean we have to love them you're in a conversation. 25:03 - Speaker 1 You have a conversation there that we never expected, but it comes out of love. And then the Holy Spirit comes. That's not just your love, that's the Holy Spirit's love flowing through you. Do you know that you don't have a secular conversation ever? There's nothing in your life that's secular. Everything in your life is spiritual. Everything, everything you say and do, is moving everybody to watch you closer or further away from God. And when you talk to people, he's ministering to them, he's speaking through them, and the Holy Spirit will prompt them to even open up and share things with you. It's just amazing how that happens, isn't it? And all of a sudden you hear oh, there's their need. They may not even tell their best friend about that, but they're telling a complete stranger because they sense there's love. And then the Holy Spirit gives you the words to say and it's God speaking through to them and that ignites your life. 25:55 - Speaker 2 And I believe we, if we love people genuinely with God's love. 26:01 - Speaker 1 It has to be God's love we don't have the ability? 26:03 - Speaker 2 No, we do not. Not enough, we will run out of it. We have to be continually filled with God's love, through the Holy Spirit, so we can love people every single day, every person we get in contact with, and out of that love will pour a lot of things, not just the gifting of okay, just speaking, or just out of that love, because I'm telling you, the most effective people in sharing the faith they're not even the evangelists. 26:30 - Speaker 1 That's right People who have an incredible love for their neighbor, for somebody else. If you're connected with God, his love, his love over all, and she goes back to that, his love flows out, yes, and it's like rivers of living water, because it brings life to us. It's what life's all about. 26:51 - Speaker 2 There's nothing more impactful than that love that you allow God to to put it through you, and out of that love the truth come, and the only thing that heals is the truth in anything and the only thing that brings life is the truth. Yeah, yeah. So yes that you, you love them, but then you come with the truth, and the truth will set them free. 27:06 - Speaker 1 I love it. We have a lot of folks out there that follow us who don't even know the Lord yet. I mean a lot of folks here that are sharing their faith. Others haven't yet. They're thinking about starting. It's kind of a cross-section. But particularly for those that are running the verse, starting to share their faith, do you have a word for them? Would you give them a little encouragement of what it're do for them? Firstly, with it, if they get off the bench and get into the game. 27:33 - Speaker 2 I I believe that everything in life starts with curiosity. You have its people. Who really found God is the people who are who really wonder does God exist? 27:46 I wouldn't be here today if I wouldn't met a girl, beautiful girl, 33 years ago. I got in love with her and in the clubs and I was a DJ and my life was going in the wrong direction, but for me it was the best direction at that time. I didn't know it then, so, and then I met this girl. She shared her faith with me and I tried to convince her that her faith is crazy and she she's. And I tried so much to tell her you wasting your life. And she said hey, if I would be you, she told me I would ask, I'd be curious if God exists. And that triggered me, and I've triggered me. The question does God exist? 28:29 - Speaker 1 Yeah, Does what? That's the major. If you're not serious about that question, you're not going to make any progress. That's the thing. 28:34 - Speaker 2 You got to really want to know. Do you really want to know? Because if you want to know, the Lord will make himself known to you. There is a secret in that. It's almost like why would the Lord? 28:47 - Speaker 1 choose that. I have a lot of friends I've been chumming with. I call it chumming until I throw a fish. I'm chumming with them to try to get them to come in and accept the Lord, and most of them are ones they don't want to know yet. They're satisfied. They have money, they have cars, they go to car rallies, they have all kinds of friends, everybody treats them, god, they're just wonderful. Life is good. They don't want to know the truth, they just don't want, and and I can't reach them until they get the point, and maybe when they and I have to do it, people are dying. I have that opportunity. When they're fighting, they call me. Okay, can we talk now? But seriously, folks, if you're not there yet, you got to really want it you want to. 29:26 You can't just be casual you got to be all in god is not you. You got to really want it. You want to. You can't just be casual. You got to be all in god is not an add-on, he's, he's everything, he's everything. And then he gives you everything back more. I love cars and sports and boats and we've been out in the boat together. We all can, we have fun. We have fun. 29:44 - Speaker 2 It's not that you gotta exactly no, no, he gives you life and life more abundantly I had more fun with Jesus than Because I was afraid that once I become a Christian, I would not have fun anymore. What a lie. What a lie. 29:59 - Speaker 1 Folks, people out here listeners, feel exactly the way. I don't want to give up what I got, and you're the ones in bondage trying to hold on to that. It's a lie, jesus, and you're the ones in bondage, trying to hold on to that. 30:08 - Speaker 2 It's a lie. Jesus came to give us life, and life in abundance. Abundant, life, abundant life. 30:14 - Speaker 1 I, you know, I've had the time of my life. I've never had more fun of my life. Every day is an adventure. It really is, and it's because I have one goal I just want to move everybody every day closer to Jesus, and then he blesses you. He said, when you live for that purpose, when you live for his purpose, he'll bless you. He'll answer your prayers, he'll direct your steps, he'll give you joy. It's all ours. Can you imagine a holy God focused on you? 30:42 - Speaker 3 Holy focused on you. 30:43 - Speaker 1 You know he knows your every thought, he knows the words you're going to say before you speak them. He made you and he made you for eternity, not for this world. And he's speaking to you right now and I hope you hear this man's heart, who does this for a living and a ministry, and his heart. You do it if he didn't get paid, but there's a financial consequence to just building a ministry and you have huge financial needs and we want you to give money to this dear brother. But you're driven by your heart, you're just. It's a hard thing, it's a hard thing. 31:11 - Speaker 2 It's a hard that God give us. Yeah, because once you know God, everything changes, even the way you see things. You start thinking of others a lot. Yeah, boy, it's all about that, yeah absolutely right thank you, thank you so much, I love you, catalei Teen Challenge Director of Romania. 31:29 - Speaker 1 Send money if you want to help him over there to the Southern California Teen Challenge in Riverside, california. In the meantime, move everybody, move everybody every day closer to Jesus, to His glory. Amen on that. See you next time. 31:45 - Speaker 3 If you enjoyed today's episode, let us know, and don't forget to subscribe, rate and review to help us reach more listeners. Remember sharing your faith ignites your faith. See you next time on the Ignite with Barry Meguiar podcast.