God’s Call Is Not Just for Pastors

Hi, everybody. Welcome back to Ignite. I have a special guest today. Bill Wee soon. It's a miracle. We've got together my grandson. Remember Jordan heard you speak at the Dream City Church in in Arizona and and he called me said you have to meet this guy. And so we did and we're all neighbors and also we had this wonderful lunch went on and we're telling stories. I got I got to get you on this show and talk a little bit because we are we are a kindred spirits are we not. And we are and very I'm so honored to be with you and on your show and it's a miracle God had me meet you. So you're you're working today. You're wearing a tie. You're going to go show some property after right. We're both businessmen. We're not we're not quote unquote typical ministers. We're not pastors. Right. We are ministers. That's right. But that's right. We do the work of the Lord but as but not as pastors. Yeah. Yeah. But you wrote this book. Yeah, there's one of those experiences. We can't go into it. But you did write this book 23 minutes in the hell and you didn't want to write it. Right. But you had this amazing experience. And now how many books have been sold? Almost two million. But you know, very it's only because it's to do with souls. It's it's about winning souls. And that's the purpose for us as Christians. Yeah. You know, God's called us all as you know, not just pastors, but all of us need to teach the gospel. And and that's why he's promoted the book. Amen. Amen. Amen. Well, he has done that as one who's written a little book and and just getting started. And I'm like a two million. Wow. I mean, that's like that's Mount Everest up there. Well, I'm a nobody. So for that to happen, you know, it's God. Well, you know, I mean, you've been sharing your faith because you're an extrovert. I've been sharing because number one, I'm being obedient to what God told us to do. You know, and first, that's allians to force is he's entrusted us with a gospel. I mean, that's a real privilege in an honor for us as Christians. We don't shouldn't take this so lightly. You know, and so many Christians don't witness, but that's a privilege to share eternal words. Things that can change people's eternal life. Let's go back to the beginning because how did that happen for you? I mean, it doesn't happen. Most Christians like Daniel and Chris had a Christians. They don't get that urge. They don't do that motivation. What did it for you? Why are you and I are both interesting stories, but I want to hear your story right now. Well, I've been a Christian for 53 years. And you know, I just got into the word of God. I just saw that I want to please God. And one of the things he instructed us to do was to go and share the gospel with all the world. So it became a passion for me. So you just did because the Bible told you to do it. Number one, you said, well, that's what I'm supposed to do. Right. But that is right. The obedient. But then, you know, Barry, I saw that and you pointed this out in your book about, you know, all of us want joy in our life. And I saw the joy that came from witnessing from sharing the truth with people. It was like a joy that was overwhelming bubbling. And I thought, I want more of this. Yeah. So I said, Lord, I want opportunities every day. And he said, well, like you said in the book, we're in front of people. Every day, we have the opportunity. Every day with everybody we've come. We're surrounded by people who are lost. And you see people's lives changed. You don't have to go, Oh, what if I could have been out there that needs Jesus? They all need Jesus, right. And Jesus said, many are going to hell. And if you were going to have, you know, Matthew seven. So we all need to preach the gospel. But you have this joy. It's not. I don't want to belabor that. But see that one more time. It's not a burden, but it's a lot. Yeah, but the one that the bulk of people are going in the right direction. Right. Matthew seven. Jesus said, many are going to hell and few are going to heaven. And I get not to belabor it. But that's where they're going to go. Unless somebody does something. They're not going to church. Right. How are they going to know unless somebody tells them? Right. And nobody's telling you only one percent of Christians are are are telling you about Jesus about the God loves you. Only one percent of us are doing that. And they're lost. They have an excuse for doing all the stuff they're doing. We have no excuse. And like you said, there's opportunity every day. Yeah. Can I just share a story? I've just just got off a plane. No, there's a novel idea. You know, we're just a couple of weeks ago, got off a plane. Like, and I, I get to share a lot on the plane. Right. Because you have a cop. I do the same thing. And so my wife and I were sitting in the two seats. It's a great. You have a captain first person beside you. So, well, there was nobody aside me on the aisle seat. And so they closed the door. And then this lady on the other opposite aisle seat gets up out of her seat. And changes to sit down. And she said, I don't know why I'm doing this. But I just felt like I'm supposed to sit here. Well, I knew why. I already knew why. And so we got talking to my appointments. Right. And I know I saw you start off small talk with people. You know, what do you do for living and where are you going? And so forth. So after she talked for a while, you develop a relationship. Exactly. You have to you have to do that for us. We're going to listen to you. Let's have a relationship where they have some trust. Right. Right. And so after what it's called loving on people. Yeah. That's right. Being really just just a lot about what it is. It's not a, it's not a recipe. It's not reciting. It's not a script. It's just fine. And it's not even trying to get them saved. It's just trying to love them on that. That's right. Right. Yeah. So after a while, she asked me, what do I do? So I told her, I teach the Bible. And she was, oh, what do you teach? And I said, well, who goes to heaven and who goes to hell? That's a good start. And I just left it. And she goes, well, no, what do you just, what do you just left it? I just stopped. And then we talked about something else. And because sometimes you get your fishing. Good point. You don't just keep hammering. Right. You let them come and want more. Right. Exactly. You wet their appetite. Yeah. And then you leave it alone and change the subject. Let them bring it back. Right. Exactly. Let them bring it back. So they're, it's something we'd be beating people up. You got to get their attention. That's the wrong way to do it. We can't beat people into heaven. We get stopped that. Exactly. So we chump. I call it chumming. We throw a little chump. Yeah. And then forget about it. Right. Don't miss it anymore. Then they'll come back. Well, what about so and so you do that love them. You leave it alone. Right. And if they're hungry, they'll keep coming back. So she said, I am, well, who does go to heaven and who does go to hell? And I just said, well, it's, there's a lot of misconception and has nothing to do with being good. And I just left it. Yeah. So then again, she was one of the no more. Anyway, long story short, I shared with really gospel. She didn't get saved then. But I said, look, I'm going to your town. That's what we're both lying to. I'm speaking at a church tomorrow. Why don't you come? And she goes, maybe I will. So she actually came and she brought three of her friends. Oh, my goodness. Oh, it's just happened. And they all, they shut, I told them they could sit in a front seat, which the pastor allowed. Anyway, so long story short, they all four of them went forward and got saved. Now, the, here's the point, though, Barry, the Lord knew that I would take the effort to talk to her. Yeah. That's why he moved her. Yeah. He wouldn't have moved her if he knew I was complacent. I didn't really care. But he does direct their steps and our steps. Right. These are divine appointments. And he superdense. He's working on both sides. Yes. I wonder how many times I missed that. I know. We all have to be sensed. God or Christ said, and then I walk right by the opportunity. I wasn't listening and wasn't paying attention. And, and I think God looks at us goes, Oh, I said, I said that all of them. Very just blew me off. You know, how many times even now I do that. Right. I know. We have to be sensitive, but when we do, I know. Yes. Right. I just recently wrote another story. Reef, freeze, come. You know, I was, I used to serve on the board at a homeward association. And for five years, I served on this board. And this man that was on the board was an atheist. He was arrogant. Me, nobody liked him. But I liked him. He was smart. And he really helped us out to keep us out of trouble. He knew all the CCNRs, bylaws, Sterling, Davis act and all these different things he knew. And I so I thanked him all the time. Bill, I thank you for being on the board with I knew your smart. And I really value you being on the board. But I never witnessed him for five years. Well, I just found out he was in a hospital. I didn't know it was wrong. He wasn't a friend, but I just knew. And I was busy with doing some real estate. And I just felt like the Lord said, go right now, go to hospital. You laid the groundwork before. Yeah. So I left. I went to the hospital and I walked in his room. And he was hooked up the tubes. He looked awful. He was 70 pounds. And, you know, he says, he barely could whisper. And he says, Bill, I was slipping out of my body last night. I was dying. And he said, I was going down a long, dark tunnel. And I was getting hotter and hotter. And he said, I was terrified. I don't want to go to that place. What do I do to stay out of that place? And I said, Bill, look, you were heading to hell. You had to write to be terrified. But you can, you don't have to go to hell. But you do need to repent. And that means you have to be sorry for your sins. And that's God for giving. So he didn't call you. No, no, he God put him on your heart. Right. To go to the news and you went, I just went right after you had that experience and the timing of right. What does that do for your faith? Well, oh, man, it makes me curious to keep going and paying attention to the Holy Spirit. And what had you not been sensitive? What if you'd not follow the nudge? Well, here's the thing, Barry. You know, I would let him to the Lord and he genuinely got saved tears of joy and everything. So I held his hand and talked to him for another hour. I left two hours later. He was dead. What if you'd not followed that being hell now? Right. Because of you because you followed the nudge. I'm so honored to get that nudge for you. He's right. You know you should do that. What is it? Well, maybe tomorrow, you know, in Ezekiel 338 says, if we fail to speak to warn the sinner from his way, his blood. Well, I've required exactly. And that's why Paul said, I'm free from the blood of your head. I know what my response was. If I have the opportunity, I'm going, I made those mistakes early on. I try not to make them. I try not to make them. I'm not 100% but I pretty well run to people that are hurting. So the point was we have to be sensitive to Holy Spirit and obey him when he tells us to go. Yeah. Because God's going to hold us accountable if we don't. Boy, when we get to heaven. But imagine meeting him in heaven. Can you imagine the excitement of meeting him in heaven? And he may be because you came by at that last minute. I'm in heaven because of you. And he had no friends. Yeah, no friends and no family. I live the one brother who was also an atheist. So he would have most likely go there. We know the right quick, right. We such a short time. But your full story or something happened recently. Well, I was just on a plane again another couple weeks ago and there was a lady next to me. And we got talking, turned out she was a nurse and she was going to the LA nursing conference. And so I ended up sharing with her a little bit about the fires of hell. I don't know why that came up. But you know, we talked about hell and everything. How does one get on the 70th of hell or somebody you don't know? Somehow it came up. But this was after about three hours. Okay. Okay. A long time of developing. Yeah. All right. Then I told her about know that there's really is because she said it's metaphorical. And I said, no, it's real literal fire in hell. And I'm telling Jesus warned about hell in 17 verses. You don't talk about the fires of hell. Anyway, so I told her that I'd written a book and I never shared that with people. But I did with her. I said, I wrote a book 23 minutes in hell that I didn't tell her what it was about. I just left it. Okay. Now this is a true story. She went to the conference and she said she wrote us two days later. And she says, Bill, at the conference's nurses, they always have a step to go or a medical thing up on the screen. The big screen with all of us listening. This time they had the fires of hell burning on the screen. She said, that made me think, what? You were just told her. I just told her. Then she gets there and they have a fire at a medical place. So she went and bought our book, read it. And she wrote us and said, I just got saved. Oh my goodness. So I mean, we have so many stories. Can you, can you come back? Absolutely. Can we have another version of this? Beyond. Okay, we're going to have a bill back on another dish of our podcast. Okay, thanks for the joyous vote. Hope you enjoy this. Come back and see us next time real soon.