April 20, 2022

God Always Gives You the Words to Say

God Always Gives You the Words to Say
Ignite with Barry Meguiar Podcast
God Always Gives You the Words to Say

For guest Christine Soule, the way to share your faith is something simple that you do every day — just start talking. Hear more from her amazing testimony and be inspired by her example to love people radically and move them closer to Christ.

Host Barry Meguiar is a car guy and businessman who hosted the popular TV show, Car Crazy, on Discovery Networks for 18 years. He loves cars, but he loves Jesus even more!

Hear from guest Christine Soule:

Christine Soule is a lover of people and passionate about leading them toward a restored and dignified life. From her own personal life trials, she has great compassion for the homeless, abused, and hurt women. In 2018, Christine founded Providence Heights — a non-profit organization with a plan to house women and children in need. She wrote Broken and Beautiful to share more about her story and vision to help women to not only survive but to thrive.

Learn more about:

  • What kind of life God rescued Christine from
  • Christine’s Providence Heights residential and training center ministry
  • Questions to ask God when you wake up in the morning
  • How you can change your environment in less than 90 seconds
  • The second chance God gave Christian when Christine didn’t “follow the nudge”
  • Christine’s faith-sharing moment 30,000+ feet up in the air

Check out Why Share? on IgniteAmerica.com to learn why it is important for every believer to share their faith. Then visit First Steps which provides practical ways to get started in your faith-sharing journey. Sign up to receive emails that will bring you solid faith-sharing tips and powerful inspiration.

Hi, everybody. Welcome back to Ignite. You know, we're all about sharing faith and how the opportunities are around us and how much fun it is and the blessings come back. So I talked to a lot of people about sharing faith. I talked to a lot of people who are not sharing their faith, but for the ones that are sharing their faith, the ones that are having the most fun doing it. There is a common thread, okay? One of them is they love God. Every faith share I know that's not doing it out of obligation being religious with, but just are having fun sharing their faith. They're just in love with God. Nothing separate. I just love you God. What can I do? How can I serve you? You know, enjoy the comes. I mean, it's evident that every faith share I bump into it. I mean, they're all over the place. So there's not in total. There's a small percentage, but there's a lot of us. There's a lot of Christians. We're going to be talking to Christians about it. And when you come in, you're merely family. I mean, it's just like, yes, you know, it's so much fun. But there's also another part of it I found. And that is that almost without exception, there has been great pain. Great trials. If you're not tested, you know, things go wrong. And we want to complain about them. Where are you, God? And why, after all, it's done for you. He says we're to receive these challenges as gifts, you know, they perfect us. Karen, I have been through challenges. You know, we're in the verge of bankruptcy with our business. We had a joint venture partner. And I found out he paid off board members of the next morning. He's going to throw me out of my business. Okay. I was in the hospital. The doctors gave up on me. And let me know there was no hope for me with all the tubes in my body and everything. I lost my daughter. I have two daughters. I lost one of them two years ago. I know challenges. So for me, this is not academic. This is real life, folks. You all, we've all been through lots of stuff. I want you to know. I'm with you on that. And I want you to know that I thank God for everything that's happened to me, everything. The people that come into my life try to destroy my life. I have some right now. I have one that's been at me for 20 years. And it's still saying really ugly things about me on social network, you know. And I had the opportunity to be with him the other day. And I told him I loved him. He says, how can you love me after all the crap I've given you all these years? You know, it's, it's, it's fun. You, it's like you, I like it to Star Wars. You know, Star Wars, they go into warp speed, right? And it's taking like, and then you go through the sun. There's peace. When you get through that wobble, sure, I forgive them. I don't want to forgive them. They're so you, and you get through that. And you, and you remember that there's no end to forgiveness. It's, it's, it's 70 times seven. It's the extra mile. It really is. And when you get there, the freedom you have to just love everybody, no matter what they've done to you. And sometimes they do some pretty bad stuff to us. So that, I have the poster child for this kind of a story. Christine, so come on and join us here, Christine. I mean, you are one of the most amazing face shares. I've ever seen because you grew up in this idyllic Christian home with the loving family and prayer on the table every night. And, and the pastor calling you out and, and, and, and rewarding, giving you favor in your church. And you were the singer in the, wait a minute. Do I have that wrong? Or maybe a little bit. It was beautiful. One thing that was accurate is, yeah, no. You would not believe this cow's story. And, uh, you know, I don't want to dwell on that. And yet I do. Can you, can you take this enormous story, testimony, and put it in about three minutes. I mean, people will not believe you can't get to where you are from where you were, except for God. You can't. It's not possible for you to be this smiling, joyful person for where you came from. That's God. That's God. So, but, it's, it's literally right now a little bit about where, what you, how, what God risk you do from what's safe meant for bad, saying had you. There was no way out. He had you. Let's see how fast I can do this. Um, okay, I started doing drugs at 10 at 17. I was pregnant with my first daughter less than two years later. I had identical twin boys. I was being trafficked. I was abused. I was living a gay lifestyle. I hated the world and I was filled with rage. And at 21, I fell to my knees and I cried out to God. And I said, if you are real, take my life. It's yours. And I fell to my, my knees. I cried out. And, and you know what? He's so tangibly. That gave me his presence, showed me the presence of God. And, and I went and I threw the drugs in alcohol away. And where I should have had a heart attack for stopping meth the way that I did. Instead, I never even had a desire temptation or withdrawal. I was completely set free. But you know, it set me on this journey. I needed to figure out who this Jesus guy was. And, and I also ended up with three babies bouncing from house to house, not knowing how I was going to survive. And, you know, it was that moment in my life that was up to that point, one of the most beautiful, fabulous moments of my life. And, and it was where my journey began. And so that's, that's really who I am. I, I met the love of my life. Right after that, I have been married for 24 years. I have had the opportunity to go from extreme poverty to living a life of philanthropy and loving people radically. And I will tell you what, when you take what the enemy has done for evil and you allow God to turn it for good. Why? For the saving of many lives. Man, it's the greatest rush in the world. I've done a lot of drugs and there's nothing like the high of the Holy Spirit. Thank you. That, that's the best thing you can say. It's the best thing to say. You have, you know highs from drugs. You've seen the best of those highs, right? It's called imitation. The high of serving the Lord and walking away from a face-sharing encounter. Is there anything that matches? No, you just moved somebody closer to Jesus? It's like your own salvation over again. It really is. I want to talk about Providence Heights for a minute because, and again, I wanted to, I wanted to talk about how you share your faith. That's what we're here for. But Providence Heights is such a wonderful, how you're, you're giving back and you're helping girls that are, they're trapped. And you, you provided this ministry, and what you're, how you're transforming lives, a lot of lives can share Providence Heights right quick. It's so very special, really. So Providence Heights is a residential entrepreneurial training center and we have as women and children that are in need. However, our real focus, we're very unique to anything that's out there. Our focus is really to launch them into their destiny. So number one is all about Jesus, someone to believe in them, training an education, and giving them the opportunity to launch. And so the, the housing is great. A spectacular, we have a beautiful hotel that they're staying in. It's a, it's a, it's a Bellevue, Washington, but we're going to expand across the United States. And so the, the great thing about it, though, is you don't go to a university for a dorm. You go to a university to change the trajectory of your life. At Providence Heights, they don't go for housing. That's not who we take in. We are preventive. We are all about launching women so that they never have to experience. We don't ever have to know what our statistics are and how many people we say from the streets. I just want to know that they love Jesus and they've launched into what God created them to be. That's what we are at Providence Heights. And what a role model you are for that. I mean, it's just, it's just amazing. I mean, we have great fun hanging out together. We get to go to different places that we're there or we're sharing. And it's always one of your latest stories and it all, but okay. So you have this rapidly growing ministry. I know a lot of Christians that, okay, I say this, it's about first love. God wants to be first love. And when he's not, whatever occupies our energy, our time, our resources, our prayer life, what fills our prayers, whatever it is is our God. And that didn't have to be something like drugs. It could be a ministry. We both know people who are doing really great things, but all they talk about is their ministry. And they get to get more money for their ministry doing all these things. And that has become their God. It's good. And I think it's such a wonderful opportunity to have you on to speak to those types of Christians and they're a lot of watch this right now that you have this incredible testimony. You have this wonderful ministry. And you need money for that ministry. You're raising money for the ministry. And it's growing fast. You can even, I mean, but the joy, your joy, can I say comes from just letting Jesus, he comes through every part of your body. It's just everything you say, your actions, you can't, you cannot look at Christy without saying, she's got the joy of the Lord. I mean, it not just the words, but everything you do just brings glory to God. And that's my view of you. And that's why I have so much respect for you. And so talk about how much fun it is, share your faith and why you get so excited. And then some practical experiences. What does that mean on a day-to-day basis? Away from your ministry, but just living a, you know, quote-a-quote normal life. Well, I'll tell you, it's truly the first the kingdom of God and his righteousness and all other things will be added unto you. If I'm just seeking him, if every day, I wake up and I say, Lord, what do you want me to do today? Who do you want me to talk to today? I love your way, Lord. If that's really my heart, he takes care of Providence Heights. Providence Heights is good. How do I love people? Everywhere I am, everything that I'm doing, how do I encourage people? I believe that everywhere you go, you need to leave people better off than when you got there. And I say that you can actually change your entire environment in less than 90 seconds. And if you don't believe it, try the opposite. Be negative. Walk into a happy room and be negative and have an attitude and watch how fast that environment seems. This issues are quite good at doing that, by the way. We can do it. We can do it for the kingdom of God. And you know what, I will tell you, we have, we are on a wellness retreat right now. And we have set the stage. There are 25 people here. And we have set the stage for the kingdom of God because you know what? I just started preaching Jesus to everyone. So I'm kind of giggling. I will tell you what, Barry, you set me up because right before my trip, I talked to you on the phone. You said, hey, you have some faith sharing stories. And I'm like, yeah, I have this one. I have this one. I have this one. And then you send me a text last night. Do you have any new ones so I can be so well, Barry, the only place I've gone is the last 10, 15 minutes, the last hour. What's your latest story? So guess what? Every story I have is here at the wellness retreat. Oh, bye. This is a place I've been since I talked to the last and I'm going to see. So I first, I have a confession to make and I'm going to tell you I'm going to be raw and real because that's who I am. I'm going to talk to your viewers about just the reality of sometimes we miss the mark. So, so I will tell you my very first day here. There's two gals that sit down on the couch in front of us. And one is super bubbly. She's wonderful. The other one, just not real talkative. Do you have a lot to say? And so I asked her question and then she just respond. And then the other gal, you know, so she's the one who I'm engaging with because she's talking. So the next day, I'm sorry, not the next day, that evening, I go to sit down with my husband at the dinner table and you're sitting in community tables. So I sit down at the table with my husband and this one gal, her name is Linda, sits at a table across from us. And I see her and she doesn't look real happy. So a few more people sit down at our table and no one sits at Linda's table. I'm thinking in my head, oh gosh, everybody's starting to fill the seats but this woman is by herself at the table still. And I thought about asking her over but she didn't look really happy and she didn't seem like she was in the mood. And so I'm like, another sits down, another sits down, our tables full. And then I see the woman and her kind of irritation moves to sadness. And then I kind of felt the sting and I went, I needed to invite her to the table. And then I thought, oh, we'll meet. I should just do that. Okay. Yes, I know, right? Oh, I should have done that. Oh, I should have. You know, you're talking to the choir. Okay. Yep. Oh, yeah. So then I think, oh, maybe we should just scoot a seat over and pull her in. Well, then I didn't. She got up and she left. She didn't come back for dinner. That's the only dinner you get. There is no other restaurant here. She did not participate with the group. Well, the next day, here I am. Dear Jesus, thank you so much for all you're doing. Lord, I just asked that you use me today and show me, Lord, who I can reach for your kingdom and for your purpose. Lord, oh, my gosh, slap upside the head. Well, I tried to and you rejected her yesterday. You ignored her. And I just sat there like dagger to my heart. I'm like, oh, Lord, please forgive me. I'm sure she needs it more than anyone here. When I said, please, God, let me have another chance with her. So I get up and we go and we have lunch and guess who sits right beside me. Wow, does the woman have a story? She's amazing. She's a powerhouse. That woman, she's exactly. I feel like if there's no other reason that I came to this wellness retreat is for that woman, who we've already exchanged contact information. She's hugged me 12 times. I mean, she's amazing. It has been such a blessing to be able to connect with her. So you know what, just I just want to say to all of your viewers, sometimes like you said, Barry, sometimes that happens. You feel like, man, I missed the mark. Just ask for forgiveness and try to hit the mark the next time. We don't need to beat ourselves over the head over it. But you know, be sensitive. Barry, you say follow the nudge and live in the fog. I didn't follow the nudge. I know I didn't follow the nudge. And and you know what, God gave me another opportunity. But man, when you feel it, just, just go and reach that person and love on them. Even even if they don't seem like they're as excited to chat with you, you do it anyway. Actually, they're your greatest opportunity because people are hurting. Need Jesus the most, you know, it's amazing. It's just amazing how that works. And it happens often, I think to all of us, or you may not notice it, but you bump into somebody and then you didn't orchestrate it nor did they, but you bump into them again. On the second time, I'm thinking, okay, God, I think you might, it might just happen. But I'm thinking you might be up to something and I try to start a conversation. I'm kind of nudging, moving into a little bit, thinking, and nothing really happens. And I just say, God, well, if you want me to talk to you over the beat, and there's that third time, and then you hit it. I mean, you just got to have your tent out, don't you? Yeah, that's it. You got it. It's been important to have to hand saying, hey, just, just start talking. And he always gives you the words to say, it's not complicated. I don't, I don't study or practice some big, I don't know, special saying, I just, I just ask God, what do you want me to say to him? And he always leaves the way. And it's usually, I just find beautiful things about people and everybody has something amazing about themselves. And I just, I typically just, oh my gosh, you have the most amazing eyes or, or I love your outfit, you know, and you just start talking. People are starving for love. And when you do that, not to manipulate, you're doing it because you really, you see that. And then you can tell the difference, you know. And when you, when you let it, when you say, I just love your eyes, or just, or whatever it is, people are starving for love. Everybody's starving for love. And nobody has time for them. And the other said, here's first, they don't even know loving on them. And then they open up. Can you believe how fast people open up to you when you love on them? Oh my gosh. They'll tell you? Yeah. And that's my other thing is I like to share my story because you know what? By sharing my story, my husband says I have a Jericho anointing. And don't look that up in the Bible. It's not there. It's that he says I break down walls everywhere I go. And I believe that, you know, just let's be wallbreakers and reach people's hearts. And the thing is I think we look at people and we think things all the time. Not necessarily the guys should talk to girls in this way or girls to guys, vice versa. But you know, I think girls all the time look at another woman and go, wow, I love that outfit. Wow. She has beautiful hair. Wow. She has an amazing smile. And we don't say it. We think it's, but we don't say it. Why not? Yeah. Why don't let people know? Or just when we notice someone saying or doing something kind or working hard, just to say, wow, you're amazing hard worker. Yeah. That brings value to that. I wore a circle back for a minute because it's a really big point. And you, you said it so effortlessly, but it's huge. God just gives you the words to say. Yes. The scriptures tell us that the Holy Spirit at that moment, right? The whole at that moment, the Holy Spirit, it may be a life experience. It may be somebody else's life experience. It may be a passage of scripture, a life's whatever. I mean, it's not the same thing. You just look, right? He just let God, he just speaks to you. Is that not the most amazing thing when you know God just inspired you to tell that person and you see the change in their countenance and their life? Isn't that amazing? You know, one of the servers here said to me, I've never had anyone here in all the years I've worked here that was as nice as you. Whoa. And I just thought my goodness. Wow. How do we share kindness? How do we let people know how valuable? What a treasure they are. Why would we not? Why would we have the ability to put that in still that in someone's life and make their day and just sprinkle that with Jesus all over it? Why would we not? How could we, how could we be the servers where all go to restaurants all the time? How could we be so selfish? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. That opportunities, right? It just focused on our stuff and it'd be demanding and Christians and notorious sheep tippers, you know. So I mean, when we had this, I love that in the message that we carry this precious gift around on the clay pots of our ordinary lives. It's precious. How could we not share it? How could we not do that? How? If he could save a wretch like me. Yeah. Why would I not? If he could do that in my life, why would I not share that with someone else? Mm-hmm. And to recognize that most people don't know that. They're doing horrible things. We see it on the news every night. But I mean, there's some bad people I think that are just evil. But I would say 99% of the people, they're not bad. They're just lost. They can only act in what they know and they don't know there's a God who loves them. And if they're not, if we don't tell them, they're not going to church. If we don't tell them, they're not going to know. The scriptures say that real clearly. That's that's on us. They don't know because we Christians are not telling them. And how we cheat ourselves in the process. I mean, it made the highest points of our life. The highest high we can possibly have doing the thing that's needed most by the world. I mean, the thing we most need to do gives us our greatest high. I mean, I mean, it doesn't get any better than that. It doesn't get any better. You know, the girl that I was just sharing with you about, she had said to me, I asked her, you know, what are you looking for to receive on this wellness retreat? You know, what is it that you want to receive from this? And she goes, well, there's the four quadrants. And she says the four quadrants. Essentially, it was spiritual and body. But she had a spiritual, it was, I can't even remember what it was. But but one of them was spiritual. And I said, oh, I said, you came here for Jesus. You came here for Jesus. Do you know what she's doing? There's a 400 year old chapel that's right up the hill from us. I sent her my, my Spotify playlist and she's going to go up and worship Jesus. She's brand new to the Lord. And I am like, here, listen, go, go listen to this because she said, I just want to go up by myself. She's talked about meditation and that kind of thing. I said, no, no, no, let me send you a worship list. This is really where you're going to hear from God. So as I went to go do this, she went to the walk up to listen to her, her Spotify and a chapel. Come on. And you know how the Holy Spirit ministers through music will touch your spirit. You wouldn't say to everybody that was customized for her. That's what God turned you to tell her. There's no script. It's just let the Holy Spirit lead us and guide us and watch people's lives change before our eyes. Is that cool? It's as marvelous can be when you just trust that God's God's the one doing it. Yeah, he really is. Can you think of one? It could be one you've told me. I don't care. You're just a spontaneous one. Were you never, I mean, you just bumped into somebody and you walk away. I mean, it's how God puts us together. It is amazing. I think he directs their steps as well as ours. The steps of the righteous are directed by the Lord. I think the steps of the unrighteous see, I think if he knows we're in business. If he knows we had the message. He'll bring people that are wanting the message over to us. Don't you think that's true? How he brings people into your life? Absolutely. Absolutely. You know, there's so many here and I'll share another one that's outside of this. But you know, I will say there's there's two people I've gotten to pray with here, which has been amazing. And and one one gal who's trying to get to Australia. And man, I just said, give me your hands. I said, we're just going to pray over this. And so she says, David, she prays with me and she's crying and she goes, this is just what I needed. This is just what I needed. So, you know what? Just truly, if you if you make it your mission field to really talk to people everywhere you go, I could I could tell you almost every personal 25 people has had a little touch of Jesus. And and so that's a very exciting opportunity here. One thing that comes to mind is well, two things, I guess, but but when I was just in a restaurant the other day and I was we had just an amazing server. He had just gotten seated. He was lovely. Didn't really get to talk to him about Jesus yet. We were just kind of getting settled in. But there was like, now who who's sat up to go leave? And I jumped up because I did felt like she needed some encouragement. Oh, well, now wait. There's somebody sitting in another table. Yeah. And she got up to leave. And and as soon as and I didn't I didn't notice her until she got up to walk away. And I thought, my gosh, I need it. I need to chase that woman down. So I walked over there and I said, I said, can I just tell you something? And she was like, yeah. And I said, I just want you to know. I love you so much. He loves you so much. And I feel like what you need to hear right now is that he is so proud of you. And she just burst into tears. And I said, I'm so proud of you. I said, baby girl, he's so proud of you. And she just wept. And that was all I said. I just and I said it over and over and over. I think that's all she needed to hear. He's proud of me. He's proud of me. And so it was so amazing. And we hugged and I prayed for her and I go and I sit down. And then the server comes up to me and he goes, I knew you were a Christian. I knew it. I knew just the way that you were talking to me that you were a Christian and seeing you go and talking to your friend over there. And that was amazing. And I go, I go, oh, that's not my friend. I go, I don't know who she was. And he goes, you didn't know that girl? Who would have thought she didn't know your whole life? And I go, I go, no, no, I just really felt like she needed to know that it was proud of her. And you know, we just had the most amazing conversation. And so I think the amazing thing about that is that we don't necessarily realize the people that are watching us. And I think that's really important to know that whether it's good or bad attitude or graciousness and shining Jesus's love, people are watching. And that has impact as well. So you can be lovely, lovely to the people at your table, but treat treat the server bad. You just need a really loud statement as to to some character stuff. And so to just, I think always be aware, not only are you ministering to the people you're talking to, you're ministering to everyone around who can see that. Three, six, everything, everything we say and do is moving people closer or further away from God. Yeah. Christians like to come into restaurants and they're demanding. They make a lot of noise after church and they stay twice as long as they should and then they stiff the waitress should know or just the people were watching and they know you're a Christian. We are a city set at a hill. And you do something unkind to somebody. They say, I don't want any part of that. That's not real. So we are in full-time ministry, aren't we? We're not clergy, but we're all full-time ministry. Everything we do it say moves everybody closer or further away from God. That's a big thought. That's a big thing. You say it so well and you do it so well. Yeah. Here we go. We're coming. What's going on? Look over it. I'll see you just going for it. Loving on people. You know, it's what you do. That's what Christians do. We love the Lord. It just should flow through us. Yeah. It's fun. Isn't that? It is so much fun. I enjoyed it so much. Oh, I have another one I thought of on the airplane. So I'm on the airplane. I'm chatting with the person next to me. And that was amazing. We're talking about about Jesus and all of that good stuff. And that was great. But it was the flight attendant that I actually kind of said, Hey, I just want you to know. I appreciate you so much. How are you doing through all of the COVID stuff? And what is going on and our things picking up and has it lightened? Are you feeling better about it? So we chatted for a little bit. And I said, I just want you to know I appreciate you. I really appreciate you. Okay. The guy next to me who I'm talking about Jesus, he's he's overhearing this and her, her response who literally was like, really? Really? Okay. That affected him more than my Jesus talk. Yeah. Yeah. Why not? He said afterwards. Okay. Yeah. Now that was cool. That's I call that a cheater. I call it a tooper. When you're talking to somebody here and it's affecting somebody, you can sue. I like it. That's a good one. I was I was with a friend and his favorite restaurant. He'd been eating there for years. And we ordered and she knew exactly what he wanted. And I said, so she she knows your Christian. He says, well, I'm not sure if she does or not. I said, wait a minute. Don't you come in here? It's a nice restaurant. Don't you come in here several times a week? Yeah. How long are you? Oh, maybe three years. Are you telling me that you know her for three years and she doesn't know you're a Christian? Well, I know what you know, I don't know how to do that. I said, we just missed a golden opportunity. He just introduced me, right? He just said, this is my friend bear. I'm a wire. You could have said, this is my friend bear. I'm a wire from church. We met each other at church. The guy who's riding crazy about Jesus. Well, I don't even say that. Just the fact that just the fact that he said, my friend from church tells him tells the the waitress, the server that he's not only a good person, but he's a good person because he goes to church. Just that simple. It's just thinking of just the little things we can do to impact before it's so easy, but you had to be intentional, don't you? You had to be intentional. You got it. When you're intentional, it just works. It's so much fun. Any lasting thought for a final thought, you want to put out there for people? Why should people? Why should we share our faith? Why should we do that? That is like the best question. We should share our faith because you know what, we're going to have a party in heaven. And I want to invite as many people as possible. Wow. That's my heart. I want to gather as many as possible. I believe I'm sucking air on this planet Earth so that I can draw as many people in heaven as possible. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness. And let's have fun in the process. That's that's a great word, great word. Where everybody, if you're not sharing your faith, I think you're the message that you're you're missing out on all the fun. If you have new your sub-iates tuning in right now that maybe you didn't know what you're watching here, but you've been hurt and bad things have happened to you and you think you're far from God and God couldn't love you and you couldn't be used by God. Boy, this doesn't shout the message, folks. God loves all of us the same. You can say this every person you meet, every person you meet, you can tell him this with authority. God loves you. And then I add to it and he loves you as much as he's ever loved anybody. What? As much as David, as much as Paul, as much as his own son Jesus Christ. That's how much God loves you. That message. And you can't get it. You can't get away from his love. You just can't. You can't. It's impossible to get away from God's love. And when he loves you that much, you know you're forgiven much. And if you're struggling, let me tell you, there's struggles. They are not hindrances. They are advantages. I have not been through what Christ needs been through, but I've been through hell and back several times. And they are my testimony. God meant every one of those are bad. He was trying to crush me. And every time I get through smiling, it's just God, you're awesome. And your testimony is brighter. Your light is brighter in the darkness. When you're when you're in the middle of that, when you're in the middle of the darkness, people don't expect you to be happy. And I don't mean artificial. Well, and I don't mean you don't say, well, you know, it's hard. And I've got, but, but, but they, nothing robbed your joy. Nothing, nothing. Don't let anything rob your joy. I was being rushed to the, to the operating room. And it was, it was a emergency. It was serious. And I'm laying in the gurney and the, and the, and the, and the, the candle lights in the city to go, my daughter Nicole was writing, running as fast she could beside me as fast as she could. And she says, Dad, she didn't say, I'm praying for you. She didn't say, have faith, Dad. She didn't say, it's going to be all right, Dad. You know what she was saying? She says, Dad, this is your testimony. This is your testimony. And I was, I, the drugs where I still have my mind, you know, testimony. What? And also the heavy. This is my testimony. I'm good before surgery. I'm good at family with you in those stores. And it's been 10 years. You know, for 10 years, that's been my testimony. Yeah, you have the joy before, not after you get through it, but you haven't before. You know, God is going to give me, I don't know how. Well, every time stuff, stuff happens to us care that I say, uh, we don't, we don't know how you're going to do it, but it's going to be interesting. You know, that's, you got us in this mess that you're going to have to get, or it's going to be easy. See how you use this for you're good, but you just know that you know that you know, Christine knows that because he, God, you brought her out of all that and it comes through so clearly. And if you're hurting, whatever you're going through right now, use it for God's glory. Give Satan a black eye. He's trying to get you. No way, no way. What Satan means for bad God uses for good. And if you saw that in Christine's life, she just sits in an amazing ambassador for Christ as we're all called to be every moment of every day. Is that great or what? Hope you enjoyed this podcast and, uh, hey, we'll see you next time.